Ha !! I use pitch correction on all my songs. I want the vocal to sound as best as I can make it and pitch correction helps tremendously. My choice is Autotune live so I can hear the correction as it's happening. If it's doing too much correction I'll try to change my delivery on the vocal. Maybe I'm trying to do a passage that's either too high for me or I need to "glide" into the phrase. I do think the forum should be for eveyone regardless of skill level. Having said that I'm also a bit in the Nigel camp where I have trusted music friends that will tell me if I'm "way out there" :-) Nothing makes me drop a song quicker than hearing a totally out of tune vocal. Sorry bout that. I also think that when people want to go back to the so called "good old days" they forget how much processing was done on those vocals. Though not pitch correction but a lot of reverb, delay, EQing, Microphone placement (and quality such as a Neumaan (sp) U-87), comping, etc.. to get the desired sound. I have a very good range (probably 4 octave) but I don't post a lot of music in the forum because my songs with the highest adoption rate are not composed in BIAB. I just haven't conquered that yet. I just can't seem to write the stuff I really like with the software. Of course that's on me. I'll leave one comment that some will disagree with but I'll never list Willie nelson or Paul McCartney as GREAT singers :-)