David Cuny,

You are clever sir.

But I am missing something because I am so far less clever.

Where do you see me mentioning the other thread in this quote, and where do you see me even mention the PG Forum in general?

My Strawman companion desperately wants to know. Also, I believe my opening sentence said I was "in line with" another conversation on pitch correction, but then went on to say I wanted to talk about other things. But for the things YOU are mentioning, they are here. Do you see BIAB forums being mentioned?

My poor straw man is weeping straw tears and I do so want him to stop. I am swearing to him that no argument has been made. I was being somewhat silly, but I assume that is allowed even if the Straw Man has not given me his permission, right?

Originally Posted By: David Snyder
Ray,

I think why I posted this is because I feel there is SO MUCH that goes into a vocal performance that is never really covered on MANY forums out there and all around the world: a lot of stuff about plugins and technology and other things, which always kind of lead to one of two places.

1.) Your vocal can't possibly work so I guess you'll have to use that AI girl Natalie like everyone else and sound like everyone else because we have now moved into a one voice world. Real voices not allowed.

2.) Why don't you just join the crowd and mind your manners, and sing some faux jazz or the 12 bar blues with a three note melody: or else go hide in a closet. Because I said so. And I should know. Although you have never heard of me.

Uh........no thanks.

Oh, I forgot the 3rd staple of Internet forums (and this one is almost sacred):

"Hey I know I am wearing an avatar mask from a Japanese video game and have the stupidest user name ever invented and no one has ever heard of me, and I really have never actually done anything, but unless everyone on the forum does what I say you will never ever make it in the real world. Trust me, I know. How I know, well, I can't say, but just trust me."

So....

No.

There is A LOT that goes into a vocal that has nothing to do with VSTs and editing.



Yet, as an FYI, there HAVE BEEN numerous comments on numerous threads here that I remember which have said that you simply cannot do a professional mix in a professional world without pitch correction.

And youtubes have been posted with engineers saying so.

And there have been quite a number of people saying in different places over time that if you do only Melodyne will do, and it cannot be Melodyne assistant, it has to be Melodyne advanced, and you have to spend all day.

These are just facts. I have read them, not all in one place, but scattered all over, throughout the years.

Again, these are not straw man arguments, these are facts.

And I simply said, in essence, and clarified it to make sure that I was making this transparent: I would like to discuss a few other things.

And that is a fact.

And a fact, sir, is not a Straw Man argument.

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