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With the Coyote Forte why can't they sell this as an sf2 so you can set it as default soundfont in VstSynthFont and default synth in Biab rather than discontinuing it because it's 32bit ?
This is a really old song I remember listening to on an old record we had, it just sounds good with Coyote Forte like most midi does. I use it as my default out of all the other soundfonts I have.
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I did try to follow up with them some time ago, but never received any reply. I suspect its development has been discontinued? Others may know more.


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They shouldn't have to develop it anymore, it will take 5 mins to make it into an SF2

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Originally Posted By: musocity
They shouldn't have to develop it anymore, it will take 5 mins to make it into an SF2


Would you be kind enough to tell this puzzled user the steps to convert Coyote to an sf2 for BIAB/VSTSynthFont64? Thanks!

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I would love to see how this is done also. The process would be interesting to see.


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I can't remember the exact steps at the moment but I think I used
https://www.extranslator.com/
https://www.polyphone-soundfonts.com/
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=409007#Post409007
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This is included in free LinuxSampler to convert gig files to wav.
Gig Extract to wav (from Free LinuxSampler Mac/Win)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6p79lsjwpm4ugj7/GIG2WAV-WIN-MAC.zip?dl=1

I would much rather pay for the soundfont than make it up again.


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Thanks Musocity.

I agree with you on the SF making. This was more of a sideline curiosity question.

I have been using SF's since the early days and there are some very nice ones available that are superior to Coyote. I used to use the Yamaha XG soundcard and the Yamaha XG Daughter Board card back in the days of Windows XP but since they dropped the development of 64bit drivers, they went bye bye.

The daughter board was used on the old Turtle Beach Santa Cruz soundcard and they too dropped development and never came out with a 64bit driver. I keep checking in vain still to this day hoping some one reverse engineered the 32bit driver's and came out with a 64bit version but that has not happened. That's why I started using soundfonts along with Coolsoft MidiSynth. That program can be used with both TablEdit and BIAB at the same time and I can sample various SF's in realtime on the fly.

I have probably sampled 50+ SF's over time trying to find the one that most duplicate the sound of a 5-string banjo, which is my instrument. The only one I have found so far is 8mbgm_enhanced18.sf2 which you can find on Google. Just compared that with Coyote in BIAB and the 8mbgm_enhanced18 still sound more like the instrument that I play. All the other banks sound great but it just seems that it is harder to duplicate the midi sound of a banjo using a soundfont then any other instrument.

I would love to figure out how to sample record my instrument and convert the WAV file into a soundfont but that is probably beyond my humble technical knowledge.

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Originally Posted By: jcland
..I would love to figure out how to sample record my instrument and convert the WAV file into a soundfont but that is probably beyond my humble technical knowledge.

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You can do that easy with Sforzando sfz, just open a wav file and open the .sfz in notepad from in C:\Program Files\PG Music Inc\Band-in-a-Box Sounds\Programs
Code:
<region>
sample=Nylon Acoustic.wav
offset=537600
end=1114112
pitch_keycenter=40

If you set your DAW timeline to Samples the offset is the start point and end the end point, pitch_keycenter is the midi note to play the sample.
Just make a copy of one of the SFZ text file and replace the "sample=Nylon Acoustic.wav" with "sample=Banjo.wav" and place the same recorded banjo notes in the DAW on another track at the same position as the guitar notes, set the DAW to 16bit 44.1Khz so the sample pos matches.

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