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....and I'm from Illinois so I can verify the authenticity.

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And the list goes on.

Someone should write a song on this subject, that would be a hoot!

And Bud, you are not naive but well informed.


I hope you're not lumping Bud in with that ongoing list? eek laugh


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I hope you're not lumping Bud in with that ongoing list? eek laugh

Not at all.
He says he reads four balanced and well vetted news sources, but then says he’s naive. I don’t think he’s naïve. Well vetted sources are a good thing.


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I hope you're not lumping Bud in with that ongoing list? eek laugh

Not at all.
He says he reads four balanced and well vetted news sources, but then says he’s naive. I don’t think he’s naïve. Well vetted sources are a good thing.



My comment about naivety was a tongue in cheek reference to Billy's post were he went into some detail discussing how misinformed I am regarding the current state of AI, etc., and how my described "cloistered net world" I reside in was not as I perceive it. Poor me. laugh

But since the VAST amount of my time is spent mountain biking, hiking, trail building and studying/photographing old architecture (all with my wonderful wife) I reckon I'll survive my relatively brief net ventures. smile

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I agree with Bud to some extent about being 77 and continuing on my oblivious journey. I said something similar to Steve in North Carolina.
"I am getting old, and I am going to die and leave these issues for you young people to sort out."

The moniker "Planobilly" mainly resulted from living in Plano, Texas.

My house was eight minutes south of the Allen Premium Outlets in Allen, Texas, a place my wife and I have shopped at several times.
AI may truly cause serious issues but what is going on in the United States is gloomy indeed … perhaps more than a bit dystopian.

It would be easy for me to continue my "oblivious journey." Well, that is, until I am personally negatively affected by AI or other issues I have limited control over.

I try to be informed. I try my best to put security measures in place.
I sleep well at night knowing I have serious security systems in place and that I am well-armed, well-trained, and as well prepared to protect my family and friends.

There is no reason to get overly upset or excited about these issues. There are excellent reasons to be well-informed and put whatever measures in place you can to protect yourself.

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Originally Posted By: Bass Thumper
Here is a known known. AI or not, there will always be a sub population of cognitively challenged and minimally educated adults that will believe in falsehoods. Here are just a few:

Santa Clause is real


You missed one.

Santa Claus has an E at the end of it. grin

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If you don't want the robots to take over, then don't invent the robots. You don't want a Terminator, don't invent the technology. AI is the current money grab and it will be developed to a point that something bad could happen. One thing you can count on is our "leaders" in DC will not do anything of substance to stop or curtail it unless it affects their power. I am not being exclusive here, both major parties are guilty. It is always about money and power. Even the climate. If there were no money to make, I guarantee you there would not be as much going on about it. I know as I work for a company that stands to make several hundred billion dollars from the green push and that is not an exaggeration. They are betting the farm on it. If the next election results in a regime change, and certain aspects of legislation gets repealed, we will be up the creek for some of it as a lot of the money is based on government handouts of course, which you and I are paying for.

As for the creative world, the gate keepers are always looking for ways to get more without paying more. Having an AI create is way better than some temperamental creative! The current WGA writers strike is all about the fact that the writers are not benefiting from the 'streaming revolution'. The model has changed, and they are still being paid like the broadcast rules specify. In their world it is kind of feast or famine. They have to live off the good jobs in the times they are not getting to write other stuff. Very similar to the music world.

AI is only going to make this worse.

Warehouses are getting more and more automated and as soon as they can invent a robot to do what a person is doing they go to it. Robots don't want days off, don't need sick time, and work tirelessly. You need a mechanic or two for repairs etc. vice a building full of people that have to have SS and Medicare taxes paid and health care and so on.

Its not all bad. I get to still play guitar and enjoy myself regardless.

I don't watch the news I don't really trust any of them to tell me the truth anyway. Deep fakes will soon hit the campaign trail and you will never know if what you are seeing is real or fake. The movies already do that. I am pretty sure the dinosaurs in the Jurassic movies are not real!

Just an opinion, everyone has one you know.


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....and I'm from Illinois so I can verify the authenticity.


And just how to you plan to verify the authenticity of Illinois? I believe that's what you were trying to say?

It feels a bit like the Bible is true because the Bible says it is. What web of circular logic and you pulling us into Mr. St. Louis, Missouri? grin

At least your attachment has been properly vetted. I do have to give you that.


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It feels a bit like the Bible is true because the Bible says it is.

Funny you should mention that, I was just the other day arguing at the dog park with a guy who was saying just that. He seemed to find the circularity comforting. I said, but Bob, I could write a book and say "everything here is true" and that wouldn't make everything true. He replied, but you're not God, and I gave up.

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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes

Verse 1:
I was just a dog, my name was plain
Until my owner played a cruel game
He placed a ham upon my snout
And snapped a pic, then sent it out

Chorus:
Now thousands prayed for Hamdog's burn
But there was no AI, no digital churn
Just a simple prank, a foolish game
Yet the internet was taken by this canine's shame

Verse 2:
My heart was heavy, guilt weighed me down
I never thought this ham could cause such a sound
People sharing, commenting, showing love
But it was all a lie, sent from above

(Chorus)

Bridge:
I forgive my owner, he meant no harm
But now my name is known, and my fame is warm
Hamdog they call me, a dog with a tale
And I'll keep on wagging, I'll never fail

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Here is a known known. AI or not, there will always be a sub population of cognitively challenged and minimally educated adults that will believe in falsehoods. Here are just a few:

Santa Clause is real


You missed one.

Santa Claus has an E at the end of it. grin

Nope.

The e is for embrangle cool


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It feels a bit like the Bible is true because the Bible says it is.


I tweeted once "All of you people who base your opinions on the bible and what god says, where are people like me who don't believe in god supposed to turn for guidance?"

I had over 2000 hate mail tweets after that one. Some people were AGHAST that their could be someone who doesn't live their life based on some book that may or may not exist, that IF it exists is nothing more than a collection of stories that nobody can prove are true, and was passed down through generations, translated many times between languages.

It's like some religion based game of Telephone.

In a bar once with 8 people sitting at a round table, I whispered this joke to the person next to me and had them whisper it to the next person. The joke was this.

A guy walks into a restaurant. The waiter asks what he wants. He said "I'll have 2 pork chops, and make them lean." The waiter says "Sure sir. Which way?"

When that joke came back to me the girl on my left said:

"A guy walks into a restaurant. The waiter asks what he wants. The guys says "I want some pork chops but make sure they don't have a lot of fat on them." And the waiter says "Sure mister. Which way?"

That's how I view the bible I don't believe exists. Like a thousands of year old game of Telephone.

I wonder how AI would tell the story of The Loaves and the Fishes? Someone with an account care to test that?

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That's how I view the bible I don't believe exists.


Well that is weird because I am pretty sure the bible exists. I may have one or two right here.


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You have something that to me is just a book of stories. Your belief system makes it "the bible".

The point of that post slightly left turn of a post was to say that people can believe what they choose to believe and like something they choose to like. Like Drake AI, Kanye AI, Usher AI, McCartney AI, Dylan AI, etc... Everything in life is optional. (Except that it eventually ends.)

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... Everything in life is optional. (Except that it eventually ends.)

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... Everything in life is optional. (Except that it eventually ends.)

You forgot Taxes cry


I don't have to pay taxes anymore. grin

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If you don't want the robots to take over, then don't invent the robots. You don't want a Terminator, don't invent the technology.

I didn't.


Interesting that Rick refers to an already posted & popular video as proof his prediction...the one he hasn't made yet!
Rick doing Rick.

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