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Good production good use of real tracks and I like the positive message in the lyrics.


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Musician 17: Thanks... I like the latest version myself.... Aside from minor production nit fixes, I think this is the one.

Elliot: Thanks. I appreciate you spending the time to listen and comment.


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First of all, I really like this whole thread where everyone is pitching in (pi). A lot to learn hear. Personally I like the gender swap of the singer. She does sound a bit too perfect it pitch. But I only have questions about the synth voices because I have no knowledge. Can you have them off-pitch a bit? Can you make them glide into the next note and waver a bit in vibrato? Still, it's such a good song, and not even a classical singer could make it sound bad.

Had to listen again for the production stuff. To my ears the mix is fine. I'm sure I can hear each piece of the production and I enjoy how you separate them. I really like the mando cutting through all those guitars. The volume of the lead could be raised to at least the volume of the vocal, but I think the tone is fine. Perhaps a bit cleaner tone would be better for the song. The song. Yeah, I really like it. One tiny nit, but there is the last stick count-in just before the song begins. I'd either drop it or include the whole count-in. Hey, I really enjoy the lyrics. Fun stuff here, Herb.


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Hello Herb
A really good song
Great melody and sound
But the vocals are extremely good
Never heard such a good AI singing before
I am really impressed
Many greetings
Andi ;-)

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Very interesting experiments in technology Herb.

I look forward to seeing where this takes you.

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Wow! This sounds pretty realistic to me. Amazing! Sounds pretty close to Freddy Mercury to me.

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Babu: This voice has the singer singing slightly off pitch by a variable amount... well, not perfectly on. And, you can edit it to be on or off as you want. I only fixed the obvious stuff. If you listen in the bridge, you can hear she's not "on" the entire time. The last version is edited to no intro.

Andi: I was impressed too which is one of the reasons I hired this singer. Chances are good she'll be hired again.

David: Me too.

Mike: I didn't catch a Freddy Mercury vibe but hey... FM was pretty darn good so I'll take that as a compliment.



Just a heads UP.... this is the latest and final version


Pass It On ( Final)

I cut the intro out because, well, it wasn't actually serving a useful purpose. Why beat around the bush... times a wasting.... lets hear the song. Waaa Laaa, it's done, I'm moving on to the next project.

Thank you all who commented with advice and observations.


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This is REALLY good!!! What was the role of the AI?? I listened to this and the other.....vocals are great in both......I like the first one better but it could be a bit less bright or something. VERY COOL!!! Take care. Greg

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Originally Posted By: Greg Johnson
This is REALLY good!!! What was the role of the AI?? ..... Greg


AI was used to sketch out the lyrics and the voice is a synth that uses AI.

I had to edit the lyrics to get what I needed without the cliches and lazy rhymes it currently likes using. The vocal synth required a good amount of time and effort to finesse the singer.
And of course band in a box is a bunch of black box voodoo magic.

Hope that helps

Thanks for listening.


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All three versions are impressive and each got better. Her vocals sound less harsh in the second and third versions and the harmonies sound good too. Actually her voice reminded us of Sonia Isaac of the Isaac Family.

For us her voice in the higher register sounds more unnatural.

The band on all sounds great.

Uplifting message too.

Well done! And no doubt a helluva lot of thought and effort.

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I really like the final version.

Cool arrangement. I wasn't expecting a slide guitar!


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Yes, the vibrato in the singer made it feel real, along with some slide ups to some notes.

Good melody that has me singing along. Band sounds good! Majestic ending.

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Originally Posted By: Janice & Bud
All three versions are impressive and each got better. Her vocals sound less harsh in the second and third versions and the harmonies sound good too. Actually her voice reminded us of Sonia Isaac of the Isaac Family.

For us her voice in the higher register sounds more unnatural.

The band on all sounds great.

Uplifting message too.

Well done! And no doubt a helluva lot of thought and effort.

J&B


thanks.... it is and has been a learning curve. Trying to figure out the various parameters and getting them right, because, there's currently not a lot of info in the manual on the details in English. A fair bit of lets punch this button and see what it does, going on. Part of what I'm learning is the vocal range that sounds the best, and what doesn't because it's either too low or too high. I actually transposed and reworked the melody lower in a few places. Just like us, she strains to hit those higher notes and while she will hit the pitch, the formants are not sufficient to make it sound good.

Considering that there were several versions created and deleted previous to any of these.... yeah, there was a lot of work involved and thinking as well as a lot of second guessing.....


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Cool arrangement. I wasn't expecting a slide guitar!
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Yes, the vibrato in the singer made it feel real, along with some slide ups to some notes.

Good melody that has me singing along. Band sounds good! Majestic ending.
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Vibrato is built in but controllable. As are the legato between the notes. I'm glad you listened and liked it ...Thanks


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