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This is a new feature of BIAB 2023.
You can drive some Vsti plug-ins. I found some problems.
Even though I'm typing chords, I want only root or slash to come out.
Because there's some Vsti, the triad sounds are going to get messy.

For example, I typed C-G/B-Am-C/G

I just need C-B-A-G to have a voice.

So, can we add a function to Chord Track called "Only Root or Slash"?

Also, notice G/B, the chord should be B in B3, but why is it in B4. If you're in B4, it's very far away from C4 in front, and it doesn't sound good.

I don't want to go into the Piano Roll and edit it myself.

Is there a better way?

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So, can we add a function to Chord Track called "Only Root or Slash"?

That would be good, but it still doesn't exist, even though it should. It has been requested previously.


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
It has been requested previously.



Did anyone say that?
Is that the Chord Track?


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Please ses this post. It discusses that the slash note cannot (successfully) be the root note of the chord.


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[quote=AudioTrack][/quote]


It's a completely different thing.
I'm talking about new features in Biab2023. “Chord Track”

I need Generate the chord SlashRoot on this track


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Originally Posted By: AudioTrack


It's a completely different thing.
I'm talking about new features in Biab2023. “Chord Track”

I need Generate the chord SlashRoot on this track


Isn't the Chord Track feature designed to add a 'chord', not a single note?

Do you want a single note? The Slash Root is designed to play a specific bass note, e.g. C/G plays a G note in the bass, even though the chord is C.


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
Isn't the Chord Track feature designed to add a 'chord', not a single note?

Yes exactly that.
It's intended specifically to send chords to a VSTi so that the VSTi can interpret those chords itself, e.g. by arpeggiation. So specifically not just one note at a time.


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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott


It's intended specifically to send chords to a VSTi so that the VSTi can interpret those chords itself, e.g. by arpeggiation. So specifically not just one note at a time.


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From this design, the BIAB is missing a problem.
Chords can definitely make vsti arpeggios. But the sound is often confused.
So a lot of the new design vsti is through a single note can also be very good.

This single note is the G of the G chord, or maybe the B of G/B

Whether it's a chord or a single note, the choice should be left to the user.

Or, does BIAB already have this feature now, I just don't know?





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I viewed the video and listened to the sample.

My questions:

1: What happens if you use a different VSTi instrument for the C minor chord (the triad). Is it exactly the same?

2: What happens if you use a completely different VSTi?

3: Is the VSTi attempting to arpeggiate the chord?

I'm not absolutely convinced that the issue is with BiaB at this stage.


PS: You mentioned "From this design, the BIAB is missing a problem."
That would actually be a good thing, yes?


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack



1: What happens if you use a different VSTi instrument for the C minor chord (the triad). Is it exactly the same?



Every VSTI is different. Most modern VSTIs, however, use the root sound. If it's a triad it's going to be messy.



Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
I viewed the video and listened to the sample.

2: What happens if you use a completely different VSTi?



This question is no different from the first one.


Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
I viewed the video and listened to the sample.

3: Is the VSTi attempting to arpeggiate the chord?



Chords often mess up the Vsti sound.


Originally Posted By: AudioTrack



PS: You mentioned "From this design, the BIAB is missing a problem."
That would actually be a good thing, yes?


Missing a problem is not a good thing. Chords can cause some Vstis to be unusable. The noise is too loud.
Of course, I can change it myself. But that would be a waste of time, so I came up with this suggestion, which is to add a feature that plays only the G notes of the G chord and only the E notes of the G/E chord on the chord track.


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Re: my questions
1: What happens if you use a different VSTi instrument for the C minor chord (the triad). Is it exactly the same?

2: What happens if you use a completely different VSTi?
Quote:
This question is no different from the first one.

With respect, yes it is. The second question referred to a completely different VSTi supplier (e.g. Sforzando, KV331, something from Native Instruments etc). The second question referred to a VSTi from a completely different provider.
I hope you could now see the difference.


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Originally Posted By: AudioTrack
The second question referred to a VSTi from a completely different provider.
I hope you could now see the difference.





AI is the trend in music. NI,Kontakt, Nexus... Can be controlled very well with a single note.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
AI is the trend in music. NI,Kontakt, Nexus... Can be controlled very well with a single note.


Are you using AI to achieve this, or is this a different topic now?


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Are you using AI to achieve this, or is this a different topic now? [/quote]


I have explained my problem. This has been repeated countless times.
I'll say it again.
You want to add a function to the chord track.
For example:
Let G chords produce only G notes and G/E chords produce only E notes grin


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott


It's intended specifically to send chords to a VSTi so that the VSTi can interpret those chords itself, e.g. by arpeggiation. So specifically not just one note at a time.


HI video test:
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From this design, the BIAB is missing a problem.
Chords can definitely make vsti arpeggios. But the sound is often confused.
So a lot of the new design vsti is through a single note can also be very good.

This single note is the G of the G chord, or maybe the B of G/B

Whether it's a chord or a single note, the choice should be left to the user.

Or, does BIAB already have this feature now, I just don't know?

I wonder if this is a communication/translation issue. Perhaps you are not actually using a "Chord Track", but are using the name "Chord Track"?

I think you just want to restrict any ordinary track to only the root or slash note.

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Originally Posted By: Gordon Scott
I think you just want to restrict any ordinary track to only the root or slash note.

It's actually a reasonable request to have a monophonic option added to the Chord Track, alongside the options to generate full complex chords or just simple triads. The function of the Chord Track is to feed an "arranger" type automaton of some sort, and if there are VSTs that require a single line, I'd say this function should accommodate them.

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It should be easy to simply delete the notes in the piano roll editor which you don't want to send to the VSTi. I say "...it should be easy", not really know if it is or not in BIAB. But that is the way I do it in my DAW.


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It should be easy to simply delete the notes in the piano roll editor which you don't want to send to the VSTi. I say "...it should be easy", not really know if it is or not in BIAB. But that is the way I do it in my DAW.



I sometimes try to save editing time. I hope BIAB plays it right away.


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Originally Posted By: Mark Hayes

It's actually a reasonable request to have a monophonic option added to the Chord Track, alongside the options to generate full complex chords or just simple triads. The function of the Chord Track is to feed an "arranger" type automaton of some sort, and if there are VSTs that require a single line, I'd say this function should accommodate them.




yes

thank you That's what I'm trying to say.


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