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Waves plug-in. #766043 05/21/23 07:17 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,873 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker OP Veteran
OP Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,873 Middlesex, NC	Does anyone here use the Waves brand plugs? If so, which ones and what do you specifically like about them? Looks like they have a wide selection of plugs with each one being fairly selective in what it does. Just curious about this line. The demos sound good but I know that is set up under their control. Thanks for your thoughts You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766044 05/21/23 08:15 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 621 Hockley, TX B Byron Dickens Journeyman
Byron Dickens Journeyman B Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 621 Hockley, TX	Tread carefully: This is only a tiny sample https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php?/topic/56652-waves-rant-sorry/&tab=comments#comment-429064 " Someday business schools will use Waves as a case study on how destroy your company by disrespecting your customers. " Byron Dickens BIAB. CbB. Mixbus 32C 8 HP Envy. Intel core i7. 16GB RAM W10. Focusrite Scarlett 18i 20. Various instruments played with varying degrees of proficiency. https://soundcloud.com/athanorsoundlabs

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766045 05/21/23 08:26 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 253 TN R Roger Brown Apprentice
Roger Brown Apprentice R Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 253 TN	I have a bunch of their plug-ins, and they're great. That said, as the previous poster indicated, their customer service leaves a whole lot to be desired. Lots of hidden upcharges, almost impossible to transfer your licenses if you get a new computer, etc. So far I haven't encountered any nightmare scenarios myself, but I've talked to enough people who have to be aware they exist. But as I said, they are great plug-ins as far as the functionality and doing what they say they'll do. Quite a few of them are "go-to" plugins for me. http://www.rogerbrownsongs.com http://www.nashvillesongwriters.com/roger-brown

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766057 05/21/23 09:43 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jul 2022 Posts: 3,048 3rd rock from the sun B.D.Thomas Veteran
B.D.Thomas Veteran Joined: Jul 2022 Posts: 3,048 3rd rock from the sun	Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker Does anyone here use the Waves brand plugs? If so, which ones and what do you specifically like about them? Their SSL G-Masterbus compressor lives on my master bus. No serious compression, just a 2/1 ratio and a high threshold, 2db of compression at most, never more and almost inaudible. But it does something with the low-end that I like. And even when it's called a 'Masterbus compressor', I use it here and there for vocals. No idea how it compares to more expensive versions of the same compressor, but I got it (almost) for free and like what it does. Goldmania Bella Listen on Spotify Watch on YouTube Buy on Amazon

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766078 05/21/23 11:07 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 637 Jonesboro Arkansas B Brian Hughes Journeyman
Brian Hughes Journeyman B Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 637 Jonesboro Arkansas	I own a couple of the Waves plugins. The one I use the most is Vocal Rider. Which works just like someone riding the fader up and down on the vocal track. I also have the Bass Rider but don't use it at all. The Vocal Rider can be had for under $30 on sale. If I remember right I had to pay for a upgrade to a newer OS at one point which I am sure you will find plenty of negative comments from waves users. BIAB 2026 Ultrapack- Fender Studio Pro 8, Windows 11, Mac Mini M4 with Logic Pro 11, Melodyne Studio, Luna Pro

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766089 05/21/23 01:06 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 16,143 GA USA Janice & Bud Veteran
Janice & Bud Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 16,143 GA USA	Tom Adams got me into them years ago. The ones I use most often: CLA Drums CLA Unplugged CLA Vocals Bass Rider Linear Phase Multi-band compressor Torque Magma Tubes And I own about a dozen more Bud Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766180 05/22/23 12:05 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,873 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker OP Veteran
OP Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,873 Middlesex, NC	Well, I picked up a few to play with You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766185 05/22/23 12:45 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,492 North Carolina David Snyder Veteran
David Snyder Veteran Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 8,492 North Carolina	I own almost everything they have and love them. The "Abbey Road" series is outstanding. Insofar as customer service, they have always been very accessible and helpful to me and I would rate them as high on customer service. Everything they make is sweet. I love this little puppy. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Redd Console.jpg (132.32 KB, 103 downloads) David Snyder Songwriter/Renaissance Man Studio + Fingers https://davidsnydersongs.com/ https://spoti.fi/359Gigs www.davidsnydermusic.com/ www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder www.soundcloud.com/david-snyder-gigs4 https://www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #766189 05/22/23 12:53 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,728 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,728 Hamlin NY	I think you will like them Herb. I have a lot of them. My most used ones are: CLA drums CLA vocal vocal rider bass rider I arrived early to a restaurant. The manager asks, "do you mind waiting a bit?" I said no. "Good", he said. "Take these drinks to table 3" 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Waves plug-in. MarioD #766196 05/22/23 01:34 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,873 Middlesex, NC Guitarhacker OP Veteran
OP Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 10,873 Middlesex, NC	Originally Posted By: MarioD I think you will like them Herb. I have a lot of them. My most used ones are: CLA drums CLA vocal vocal rider bass rider 3 out of the 4... the top 3 also CLA guitars and 76 We'll see how this goes. Popped a few into the latest project I'm working on and I'll examine them closely in the mixdown. Last edited by Guitarhacker; 05/22/23 01:34 PM. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #767626 06/04/23 02:41 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15 cornwall ontario K keltie Enthusiast
keltie Enthusiast K Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 15 cornwall ontario	Waves plugs don,t work in real band! I know i tried rob!

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #767691 06/05/23 09:13 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,049 Sillie Con Valley, California Mike Halloran Veteran
Mike Halloran Veteran Joined: Apr 2017 Posts: 2,049 Sillie Con Valley, California	The plug-ins are great. Waves licensing — uh… not so great. I got off their WUP Clown Car a number of years ago and haven't looked back. They do not offer anything I can't find elsewhere. I don't miss them. BIAB 2026 Audiophile Mac 24Core/60CoreGPU M2 MacStudioUltra/8TB/192GB Sequoia/Tahoe, M1 & M5 MBAir, 2012 MBP Digital Performer11, Logic, Finale27/Dorico/Encore/SmartScore/Notion/Overture

Re: Waves plug-in. Guitarhacker #767707 06/05/23 10:55 AM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,205 Sacramento, California dcuny Veteran
dcuny Veteran Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,205 Sacramento, California	Their products are good, and I use a number of them. But... their sales tactics leave a lot to be desired. Waves is well know for having running non-stop "sales", with "lowest price ever" meaning it's the same "lowest price ever" that it was last time. They also constantly push their upgrade plans. This is mostly an issue for Mac users, since Windows often has excellent backwards compatibility between versions. Mac users, not so much. So you either buy into the upgrade plan, or re-purchase the products when an upgrade breaks the old plugins. A couple of months back Waves announced without warning they were switching to a subscription-only model. Glossing over many, many details, this did not go well. Waves eventually backpedaled, but many users thought the way that Waves chose to do this showed a willingness to throw many long-time users under the bus simply to maximize profits. That said, they have many excellent plugins. For example, they just announced a neural network based de-reverberation. -- David Cuny My virtual singer development blog Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing? BiaB 2025 \| Windows 11 \| Reaper \| Way too many VSTis.

Re: Waves plug-in. keltie #767719 06/05/23 02:04 PM Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2020 Posts: 2,766 Victoria, BC Simon - PG Music Veteran
Simon - PG Music Veteran Joined: May 2020 Posts: 2,766 Victoria, BC	Originally Posted By: keltie Waves plugs don,t work in real band! I know i tried rob! Correct - Waves uses a "shell" plugin, which is one single DLL file that masquerades itself as multiple different plugins, and quite a few programs don't support that. Band-in-a-Box does, however RealBand and PowerTracks do not. As for Waves plugins themself, I quite like the Renaissance Compressor, though I typically use it for expansion rather than compression. I work here

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