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I have the same problem. I bought BiaB for mac yesterday and I can't load tracks into LogicPro.

Mac mini 2020 with M1 chip and 16 GB RAM
Mac OS version: Ventura 13.4 (22F66)
Logic Pro version: 10.7.8
BiaB release: Release 2023 (705)
Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin.component version: 5.5.2

I have a successful installation ov BiaB.

Thanks,

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So here we go. I don't see the the PG Music Inc NinaB Daw Au Plugin.

Bruces-iMac:~ bruce$ auval -v aumu Oaw8 Manu

AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.6.1a1
Copyright 2003-2013, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Specify -h (-help) for command options

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.5.2 (0x50502)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
FATAL ERROR: OpenAComponent: result: -1,0xFFFFFFFF
Bruces-iMac:~ bruce$

If you need me to do part 2 of you response let me know after you have reviewed the above. Maybe that will do.


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I have the same problem. I bought BiaB for mac yesterday and I can't load tracks into LogicPro.

Mac mini 2020 with M1 chip and 16 GB RAM
Mac OS version: Ventura 13.4 (22F66)
Logic Pro version: 10.7.8
BiaB release: Release 2023 (705)
Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin.component version: 5.5.2

I have a successful installation ov BiaB.

Thanks,

Pierre


Could you follow the steps above in my previous post regarding the auval tool, and post your results as described there?


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So here we go. I don't see the the PG Music Inc NinaB Daw Au Plugin.

Bruces-iMac:~ bruce$ auval -v aumu Oaw8 Manu

AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.6.1a1
Copyright 2003-2013, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Specify -h (-help) for command options

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.5.2 (0x50502)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
FATAL ERROR: OpenAComponent: result: -1,0xFFFFFFFF
Bruces-iMac:~ bruce$

If you need me to do part 2 of you response let me know after you have reviewed the above. Maybe that will do.


Thanks. I'd actually like to confirm that a previous build passed on your system. Could you try installing this earlier build and running that same auval command? Does it pass??
https://update.pgmusic.com/support/mpatch/bb2023_mac_update_build704_dawplugin_5.4.7.pkg

Note: You can always reinstall the current build:
https://update.pgmusic.com/support/mpatch/bb2023_mac_update_build705.pkg

Thanks for sticking with this.

Edit - One more thing. Can you run the 'Standalone' version of the plugin and see if anything strange happens? You can find this in your Band-in-a-Box folder here: BBPlugin | Files | Band-in-a-Box DAW Plugin Standalone.app

Once you open that, check File | Preferences | Folder Locations. What is the Band-in-a-Box path listed there?


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Hi Andrew thanks for your help, here is the result:

AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.10.0
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VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.5.2 (0x50502)

* * PASS

Note
To do another test
A) I uninstall completely BinB
B) I disable the MacOS "System Security Protection" (Even if BinB was installed properly the first time)
C) I install again BinB

And nothing change ...

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Hi Andrew thanks for your help, here is the result:

AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.10.0
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Specify -h (-help) for command options

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VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.5.2 (0x50502)

* * PASS


This can't be the entire report. Is there more? It should be something like 50-75 lines in total. Unless it fails at some point, in which case it would show some kind of error message.


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Hi Andrew, here is the complete report:

Last login: Thu Jun 8 10:38:56 on ttys000
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ~ % auval -v aumu Oaw8 Manu

AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.10.0
Copyright 2003-2019, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Specify -h (-help) for command options

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VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.5.2 (0x50502)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
Time to open AudioUnit: 126.439 ms
WARM:
Time to open AudioUnit: 33.741 ms
This AudioUnit is a version 2 implementation.
FIRST TIME:
Time for initialization: 0.009 ms

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS:
Input Scope Bus Configuration:
Default Bus Count:0

Output Scope Bus Configuration:
Default Bus Count:8
Bus Name: 1-2
Format Bus 0: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus Name: 3-4
Format Bus 1: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus Name: 5-6
Format Bus 2: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus Name: 7-8
Format Bus 3: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus Name: 9-10
Format Bus 4: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus Name: 11-12
Format Bus 5: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus Name: 13-14
Format Bus 6: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus Name: 15-16
Format Bus 7: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Bus 0, Has Channel Layouts: 0x640001 0x650002 0x660002 0x670002 0x6A0002
Default Layout (bus 0):
Tag=0x650002, Num Chan Descs=0

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Tail Time
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Bypass Effect
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES:

VERIFYING CUSTOM UI
Cocoa Views Available: 1
JUCE_AUCocoaViewClass_3ef73c4bbe185b58
PASS

HAS FACTORY PRESETS
ID: 0 Name: Untitled

VERIFYING CLASS INFO
PASS

TESTING HOST CALLBACKS
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO:

# # # 1 Global Scope Parameters:
Parameter ID:1419126729
Name: Host State
Parameter Type: Boolean
Values: Minimum = Off, Default = Off, Maximum = On
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Readable, Writable
-parameter PASS

Testing that parameters retain value across reset and initialization
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
FORMAT TESTS:

Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
[0, 1] [0, 2]

No Input, Output Chans:
0-1 0-2 0-4 0-5 0-6 0-7 0-8
X X

# # AudioChannelLayouts (5), Output Scope:
ChannelLayout is Writable: T
The Unit publishes the following Channel Layouts:
0x640001, 0x650002, 0x660002, 0x670002, 0x6A0002,

Is Audio Channel Layout Available:
Mono Stereo Binau. AU_4 Ambi. AU_5 AU_5_0 AU_6 AU_6_0 AU_7_0 AU_7_0F AU_8 AU_5_1 AU_6_1 AU_7_1 AU_7_1F
X X X

Current Format:AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Current Format Tag = 0x650002, New Format Tag = 0x640001, Success - did not reset format with mis-matched layout

Current Format:AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Current Format Tag = 0x650002, New Format Tag = 0x650002, Successsful

Current Format:AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Current Format Tag = 0x650002, New Format Tag = 0x6A0002, Successsful

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
RENDER TESTS:

Output Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Render Test at 512 frames
Slicing Render Test at 64 frames
PASS


Render Test at 64 frames, sample rate: 22050 Hz
Render Test at 137 frames, sample rate: 96000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 48000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 192000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 11025 Hz
Render Test at 512 frames, sample rate: 44100 Hz
PASS

1 Channel Test:
Render Test at 512 frames
PASS

Bad Max Frames - Render should fail
PASS

Checking parameter setting
Using AudioUnitSetParameter
Using AudioUnitScheduleParameter
PASS

Test MIDI
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
AU VALIDATION SUCCEEDED.
--------------------------------------------------

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Hi Pierre,

So it doesn't seem like you are having the same problem as Hogman, since validation succeeds for you. I'll move your post into it's own thread, so reply there with more details about what specifically the problem is...

In this thread we will continue to work on Hogman's problem.


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So here we go,

1. I've reinstalled the earlier builds on the links you sent me, 704 and 705. Please note that I have done this before.
2. I ran the ouval command and I don't see anything that changed. I have copied the information and can pass it along to you. For now I have it saved.
3. I re-ran the aumu file and below are the results. Last login: Thu Jun 8 13:20:41 on ttys000
Bruces-iMac:~ bruce$ auval -v aumu Oaw8 Manu

AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.6.1a1
Copyright 2003-2013, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Specify -h (-help) for command options

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.5.2 (0x50502)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
FATAL ERROR: OpenAComponent: result: -1,0xFFFFFFFF
Bruces-iMac:~ bruce$

I also ran the Standalone program and I don't see anything unusual for now. Tracks and styles are loading up fine. However I could not check the File/Preferences/Folder Locations from the open window.

As mentioned before one thing that we have not tried is going into the Library/Chaches. You didn't think it would make a difference so I thought I would defer.

I'm not out for the count yet.


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Forgot to tell you, I went into the Folders for the Band under Daw Vst3 plugins.vst and got this if it helps. Last login: Thu Jun 8 13:23:56 on ttys000
Bruces-iMac:Band-in-a-Box DAW VST3 Plugin.vst3 bruce$ auval -v aumu Oaw8 Manu

AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.6.1a1
Copyright 2003-2013, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Specify -h (-help) for command options

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.5.2 (0x50502)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
FATAL ERROR: OpenAComponent: result: -1,0xFFFFFFFF
Bruces-iMac:Band-in-a-Box DAW VST3 Plugin.vst3 bruce$


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1. I've reinstalled the earlier builds on the links you sent me, 704 and 705. Please note that I have done this before


You might have misunderstood.

After installing this...
https://update.pgmusic.com/support/mpatch/bb2023_mac_update_build704_dawplugin_5.4.7.pkg

...you should have 5.4.7 installed, but the auval report shows you have 5.5.2 installed. I want to see that report when you have 5.4.7 installed.


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Andrew, ss I noted before, the one thing that I have not tried is going into the Library/Chaches that you mentioned . You didn't think it would make a difference so I thought I would defer but I can run it down if you were waiting for me to do so.

I also thought I would mention is that I've always ordered the hard drive to install the programs and I have 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023. The plugin, as far as I can remember worked with the 2022 version that I bought in the spring. I'm wondering if there is a file that was copied on the 2022 and not the 2023 disk drives? I know that the disk drives are mass copied, so maybe something there. I could check for you if you instructed me on what to look for and how to do it.

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Andrew, ss I noted before, the one thing that I have not tried is going into the Library/Chaches that you mentioned . You didn't think it would make a difference so I thought I would defer but I can run it down if you were waiting for me to do so.


Sure, go ahead and do that. It is definitely worth a try.

So, if I'm understanding you correctly now, there has been no build 5 (Version 2023) AU plugin that works on your system? The reason I'm asking is because there was an AU validation problem that was specific to one of the 2023 release builds. I had been assuming that your problem was related to that but I think I misunderstood.

So, you're saying this build does NOT work, is that correct?
https://update.pgmusic.com/support/mpatch/bb2023_mac_update_build704_dawplugin_5.4.7.pkg

To be clear, download and install this package, then run the validation tool as described earlier and see if it completes successfully.

Moving on then, the plugin was updated last summer to support Apple's silicon chips, and at this point our earliest supported OS (for the plugin) was bumped from 10.7 to 10.9 (Mavericks). Since you have Sierra (10.12) that should not be a problem, but perhaps this is when it stopped working on your system for one reason or another, perhaps a missing dependency. You could do the same test as above, with two "2022" builds. To do this, follow these simple steps (You should read through all steps before proceeding, so you understand what you are doing.)

1. Open your Band-in-a-Box folder, and find the main Band-in-a-Box app (Band-in-a-Box.app). Duplicate this (click on it and command+D) and name the duplicate "Band-in-a-Box 2023.app".

2. Install Version 2022 with plugin build 4.6.15:
https://update.pgmusic.com/support/mpatch/bb2022_mac_update_build605.pkg

3. Run the auval test and take note of the results. Ideally, copy into a text file to save.
auval -v aumu Oaw8 Manu

4. Install Version 2022 with plugin build 4.8.7. This is the first build that is a universal binary that natively supports both Intel and Silicon Macs.
https://update.pgmusic.com/support/mpatch/bb2022_mac_update_build609.pkg

5. Run the auval test again as above. If the test succeeds with build 4.6.15 but fails with 4.8.7, then we know this is when it stopped working on your computer.

6. To get back to Band-in-a-Box 2023, do the following. The "Band-in-a-Box.app" will be 2022 at this point - delete this. Rename the "Band-in-a-Box 2023.app" back to Band-in-a-Box.app. Now you can install the Build 705 update patch:
https://update.pgmusic.com/support/mpatch/bb2023_mac_update_build705.pkg


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ok so I've downloaded the 5.4.7 patch and it shows that it was installed. So now for me, after this, its really getting into the weeds. I don't have a clue what I am or will be doing as far as trying to correct this. I'm not a savy computer wia At 71 years old this is overwhelming me.




VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'Oaw8' - 'Manu'
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Manufacturer String: PG Music Inc.
AudioUnit Name: Band-in-a-Box DAW AU Plugin
Component Version: 5.4.7 (0x50407)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
FATAL ERROR: OpenAComponent: result: -1,0xFFFFFFFF
Bruces-iMac:~ bruce$


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Ok - you should reinstall the latest patch and use the standalone DAW plugin version. Just drag tracks from there into Logic. This will be almost the same as using the AU plugin from within Logic. You can find the standalone version here:

/Applications/Band-in-a-Box/BBPlugin/Files/Band-in-a-Box Standalone DAW Plugin.app.

Let me know if you have any questions about that.


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I'M good Andrew,
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  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!

All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!

It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!

The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.

The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac Videos

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac, we’re rolling out a collection of brand-new videos on our YouTube channel. We’ll keep this forum post updated so you can easily find all the latest videos in one convenient spot.

Whether you're exploring new features, checking out the latest RealTracks or Style PAKs, this is your go-to guide for Band-in-a-Box® 2026.

Check out this forum post for "One Stop Shopping" of our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 Mac Videos!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Mac is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 100 new features in this exciting release.

Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until May 15, 2026. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.

Holiday Weekend Hours

As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:

April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours

Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!

— Team PG

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