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Thank you, Gordon. The ‘loading’ was intentional, since I don’t know if there is a lossless format that would work both for downloading and for use as audio in Win and Mac formats. But you are right to separate the two purposes, and in this thread the question relates primarily to downloading even larger files than the audiophile version uses now.
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With hindsight the word "ambiguity" might have been a better choice. "Loaded" may tend to imply an attempt to mislead and I'm sure there was no such intent on anyone's part.
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Thanks. Yes, it was indeed my intent to ask the broadest possible question and find out if there is something out there of which I am unaware.
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With hindsight the word "ambiguity" might have been a better choice. "Loaded" may tend to imply an attempt to mislead and I'm sure there was no such intent on anyone's part. No ambiguity. It was clear to me that you didn’t really grasp Matt’s question and you definitely didn’t understand my answer. So, instead of asking questions, you “armchair experted” your way around this as you so often do and then followed it up with backpedaling. As Matt knows, BIAB already uses lossless compression. It’s different for Mac and Windows. There is no scheme that works natively for both OS as I was trying to explain. So, to clarify my answer, a proper BIAB installer will know from your serial number whether you need the Mac or Windows version. It already does this, BTW. I would like it to include the Audiophile version at 48k/24 which, apparently, is how they were originally recorded. A number of companies have gotten away from downloading files separately. The BIAB Installer is a step in that direction. It’s not quite there, yet.
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I’m willing to say I’m pretty sure a PG Music staffer said the RealTracks were recorded at 24-bit, and I’m not sure that info occurred in a public post I could reference. But as to 48K, I have no memory of being told that.
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I was trying to moderate what I thought might possibly have unintentionally appeared rude. To you both. YMMV.
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I have to say that I was quite dismayed by Mike's post. So presumably cannot he see that "lossless downloadable audio files" != "downloadable lossless audio files". That kind of ambiguity in a large section of my career could have had fatal consequences and I can tell you from first hand experience on several occasions that it isn't funny being accused "your software has killed someone". The accusation was never true. It was clear to me that you didn’t really grasp Matt’s question and you definitely didn’t understand my answer. I understood both perfectly well, thank you. FLAC is not supported by the MacOS It does not matter. FLAC and any other "not supopoerted by MacOS" formats are primarily the responsibility of the application, not the OS. If it had to be supported by the OS there would not be, for example, a multitude of music players for MacOS that play FLAC files. In another part of my carreer I was involved with image capture of confocal microscope images, where the software scans a sample multiple times through the Z-plane, deconvolutes each image, recolours the image as it's usually taken in monochrome, and build a 3D image of the sample. I'm pretty sure nnot much of that is supported by the OS either, so obviously would also be infeasible. Before accusing others of being an "armchair expert", please check your own understanding of things.
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Don’t know if this video has done the rounds but for those that feel they require higher bit rates or greater sample rates this is worth a look. I guess it puts a big hole in the discussion and calls a lot of “noise” around this topic hype. https://youtu.be/cD7YFUYLpDcHave fun and fight away Tony
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Don’t know if this video has done the rounds but for those that feel they require higher bit rates or greater sample rates this is worth a look. I guess it puts a big hole in the discussion and calls a lot of “noise” around this topic hype. https://youtu.be/cD7YFUYLpDcHave fun and fight away Tony The stairstep myth was debunked decades ago and he replays an old video showing why. This video doesn’t go into the 48/44.1 debate at all. Would hav been nice if it did. AV/Video/Streaming defaults to 48 and that’s why it’s important. 96 is just a multiple and that’s why it’s irrelevant. Also, it doesn’t really go into bit depth and why that’s important but the follow up video does. The third goes info when higher sample rates are advantageous. All four in the series are quite good.
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external drive size is an Showbox jiofi.local.html tplinklogin issue, this is perhaps an opportunity to revisit the method of delivery. Some of us would welcome an option for downloading the audiophile version in a lossless compressed standard (and preferably one that worked on both Windows and Mac operating systems.
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