Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 99
D
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 99
Hello Dan,

when you say you have an arrangement in the works, are you using Band in a Box exclusively to "drive" the sounds, and/or another DAW, and/or NI's hardware?

I am willing to go overboard and get the whole Collector's Edition at $899 (50%) off, but am wondering if I can then simply use the sounds within BinABox (part of my workflow also includes the DAW, Mixcraft).

I am also considering getting the hardware bundle that they are offering, but rarely compose on a music keyboard.


Tom Marvan
Dunbar7376
San Diego, CA

Band in A Box Audiophile 2025

MSI GE66 10SFS 15.6" Laptop (Model GE66048)
Intel Core i7 10th Gen i7-10750H 2.6ghz
32GB DDR4 RAM 2666mhz
8GB GDDR6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
1920x1080 Full HD LED
2x1TB NVMe SSD PCI
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,177
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,177
Originally Posted By: dunbar7376
Hello Dan,

when you say you have an arrangement in the works, are you using Band in a Box exclusively to "drive" the sounds, and/or another DAW, and/or NI's hardware?

I am willing to go overboard and get the whole Collector's Edition at $899 (50%) off, but am wondering if I can then simply use the sounds within BinABox (part of my workflow also includes the DAW, Mixcraft).

I am also considering getting the hardware bundle that they are offering, but rarely compose on a music keyboard.



Hello Tom,
Thanks for asking. My current project is EZKeys2,EZBass,EXDrum3, Session Guitars Mint and me on my Strat. So no BIAB in this arrangement (so far). But BIAB is not far from all my work since even if it is not present, it is likely that it provided some spark of inspiration along the way.

I can tell you that Kontakt VI's works in BIAB. So yes, you will likely be able to use the "sounds" in BIAB. However, IMO, BIAB lacks the features to do final arranging, mixing and mastering needed for final production. So while I may start in BIAB, I always end up in Reaper.

I have worked hard over the past years to increase my composing on a keyboard. I can tell you the NI hardware keyboards can be a great investment in your long term music plans. So even if you are not a pianoist, playing chords/pads or driving a synth or kontakt instrument engine has permitted more of me in my music.

And finally, although you did not ask... while I have no problem recommending the Collectors Edition, I can't help but think that is a crazy amount of new-software to buy at one time. The way NI sells these packages makes it no more costly to buy-up over time instead of all at once. So unless you have your eyes on something specific, may be best to slow down a bit. The Stand and Ultimate Editions are a life time of sounds. But if you have more money then you know what to do with it.... have fun.

Dan


BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 99
D
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 99
Hello Dan,

Thank you for the very interesting response.

When I write a song, I usually do so on my guitar, but will occasionally compose on my Yamaha keyboard to work out sax and piano solos, that sort of thing. I'll then plug in a chord progression in BandInABox and choose a style, bring in the instruments, and do 80% of the arrangements in there.

The 2023 version of BinB is amazing in its ability to edit and regenerate audio. I may also add some sparse effects, but generally I then import the whole thing into Mixcraft 9 Pro, a very handy little DAW. From there I add my vocals and guitar(s), additional effects, production and mix.

I am contemplating where to insert the Native Instruments part in my workflow. My initial thought was to replace some of the string sounds in particular that Band In a Box offers, even some of the MIDI, with the NI sounds once I bring it into my DAW. Of course, the NI sounds would offer a lot more in terms of variety, not just of straings.

While the current sale offers a discount on the NI software and hardware each separately, there is an additional compounded discount when you get both, as the hardware comes with a lesser tier of software, and so adding the Collector's Edition in my case is now considered an upgarde rather than a brand new full software purchase.

I do not have money to burn, but with the discounts, I am lucky to be in a position to afford it, and I don't think any piecemeal pricing down the road will beat it. Finally, sometimes I just like to derive inspiration by experimenting with sounds, so it would be nice to have the whole NI palette without restrictions.

Thank you again for your input. I would love to hear some of your tunes when they are ready.


Last edited by dunbar7376; 06/05/23 10:13 AM.

Tom Marvan
Dunbar7376
San Diego, CA

Band in A Box Audiophile 2025

MSI GE66 10SFS 15.6" Laptop (Model GE66048)
Intel Core i7 10th Gen i7-10750H 2.6ghz
32GB DDR4 RAM 2666mhz
8GB GDDR6 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
1920x1080 Full HD LED
2x1TB NVMe SSD PCI
Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610
Upgraded to 14 Ultimate. Enough instruments and presets to last for the rest of my life.

On top of that, I subscribed to Studio One Sphere. Studio One has turned into my fav DAW.


Cheers,
Mike

My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,177
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,177
Originally Posted By: MikeK
Upgraded to 14 Ultimate. Enough instruments and presets to last for the rest of my life.


Congratulations mate, it is a gift which never stops giving.


BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610
Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Originally Posted By: MikeK
Upgraded to 14 Ultimate. Enough instruments and presets to last for the rest of my life.


Congratulations mate, it is a gift which never stops giving.


Thanks, Dan. Indeed it is. You can spend a lot of time exploring some awe-inspiring sounds.


Cheers,
Mike

My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
Off-Topic
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 30
R
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
R
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 30
Only one problem neither Band in the Box nor Realband are compatible with Kontakt 7 .dll given that it is VST3. So, what really new cannot be used on my favorite DAW, just the stuff I had before investing in Complete Collectors Editions.

Last edited by robbey10; 07/10/23 02:15 AM.
Off-Topic
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,663
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,663
This problem no longer exists because in Komplete 14 there is Komplete, which handles VST3 transparently.


Biab Audiophile 2025 11.28 Win
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,177
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,177
Originally Posted By: robbey10
Only one problem neither Band in the Box nor Realband are compatible with Kontakt 7 .dll given that it is VST3. So, what really new cannot be used on my favorite DAW, just the stuff I had before investing in Complete Collectors Editions.


I think you are correct! Kontakt 7 will not load in BIAB. I didn't even notice since I have Kontakt 6 on my machine which still loads. I am not aware of any new Komplete stuff which actually needs Kontakt 7 since I see my new stuff in Kontakt 6.

But this whole VST3 thing in BIAB needs to be addressed.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Screenshot 2023-07-10 080307.jpg (56.07 KB, 24 downloads)

BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Holiday Weekend Hours

Our Customer Service hours this weekend are as follows:

Friday, April 18: 8:00 - 4:00
Saturday, April 19: closed
Sunday, April 20: closed
Monday, April 21: Regular hours

Thank you!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Update to RealBand® 2025 Build 5 Windows Today!

Already using RealBand® 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 5 now from our Support Page to ensure you have the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Get the latest update today!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 for Windows is Here!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 is here! This new version introduces many features, including VST3 support, the ability to load or import a .FLAC file, a reset option for track height in the Tracks window, a taller Timeline on the Notation window toolbar, new freeze buttons in the Tracks window, three toolbar modes (two rows, single row, and none), the improved Select Patch dialog with text-based search and numeric patch display, a new button in the DirectX/VST window to copy an effects group, and more!

First-time packages start at only $49. Already a PowerTracks Pro Audio user? Upgrade for as little as $29!

www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm

Video: Summary of the New Band-in-a-Box® App for iOS®

Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.

Band-in-a-Box® for iOS® :Summary video.

Check out the forum post for more information.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics83,926
Posts772,452
Members39,495
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Suzzana71, TKG, Dejman1978, Mico, Amelia Collins
39,494 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 157
rsdean 95
DC Ron 95
WaoBand 77
Today's Birthdays
redneck rucie, Superbron
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5