Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#744537 12/14/22 05:58 AM
Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,540
C
Cerio Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
C
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,540
https://musescore.org/en/4.0

Still free and open source smile


Latest BIAB version, latest build.
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
This is a beast of an application. Let the learning curve begin.


BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
I've worked with a beta version, and I need to get this. Thanks for the notice.

For anyone not familiar, MuseScore is to my knowledge still the ONLY music notation software that reads BIAB formatted SGU and MGU files directly. This is major.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,540
C
Cerio Offline OP
Expert
OP Offline
Expert
C
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,540
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
For anyone not familiar, MuseScore is to my knowledge still the ONLY music notation software that reads BIAB formatted SGU and MGU files directly. This is major.


Unfortunately it seems SGU / MGU support is broken in MS4; Importing a MusicXML file made with BIAB is also not working.

None of these options appear in this list :
https://musescore.org/en/node/334701

Before reporting it to the MS team, could you please confirm, Matt?

Last edited by Cerio; 12/14/22 11:10 AM.

Latest BIAB version, latest build.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 2,560
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2020
Posts: 2,560
Has anyone else gotten this message from within MuseScore3 ?

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Screenshot 50.jpg (17.3 KB, 224 downloads)

https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677
BiaB 2025 Windows
For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
I think they are still maintaining the V3 along with the V4. So that could be the most up to date V3. I was running V4 in its Alpha/beta for the past months, but that was on the old dead machine. I am looking forward to loading V4, but the load is massive with the "hub" think which is a heavy connection to the website for loading, maintaining and advertizing. So I have to do the new install carefully to get only what I need this time.



BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,047
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,047
I just read this on their web site, "MIDI import panel not currently implemented, making this section largely moot". Thus one can not import any MIDI files. I would assume that includes BiaB files.

Unless that is rectified then version 4 is a no go for me.

If anyone finds anything different please let us know.


My momma didn't raise a fool. And if she did it, was one of my brothers.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
Here I just D&D a BIAB .mgu file into Muscore. Notice something missing? When I tried to examine what was going on it just shut down Muscore (twice). The second time it was a time out shut down after a few minutes.

Maybe something I need to learn.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Screenshot 2022-12-14 183217.jpg (103.13 KB, 200 downloads)

BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Ouch. I’ll test as soon as I can, but this doesn’t look promising. It would be unfortunate. I have sometimes taken a BIAB song into MuseScore then exported it as Music XML. The reason is that sometimes the Music XML exported from BIAB gives an error message when imported.

I will try to find time to run some tests.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 621
B
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
B
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 621
I believe I will wait.


Byron Dickens

BIAB. CbB. Mixbus 32C 8 HP Envy. Intel core i7. 16GB RAM W10. Focusrite Scarlett 18i 20. Various instruments played with varying degrees of proficiency.

https://soundcloud.com/athanorsoundlabs
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
M
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
I wonder if they fixed the VST Sync issue
https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues/14304
I asked some time back.
Quote:
Musescore 4 is not sending the VstTimeInfo to the plugin, this is needed for VSTs like EZKeys EZBass EZDrummer ReWireVST MusicLab RealGuitars Kontakt RapidCompose etc.. that need to sync with the host.
You can see in the pic the is no ppqpos, tempo or time signature being sent to the VST
Whether VstFX or VstI
https://reatrak.com/images/MS4-No-VstTimeInfo.png

Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 732
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 732
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Ouch. I’ll test as soon as I can, but this doesn’t look promising. It would be unfortunate. I have sometimes taken a BIAB song into MuseScore then exported it as Music XML. The reason is that sometimes the Music XML exported from BIAB gives an error message when imported.

I will try to find time to run some tests.


I have gotten the error message a few times importing the BIAB XML and just acknowledged it and kept going and it usually works out fine. But you never know! I use Musescore a lot, so hopefully they will get version 4 sorted out soon enough.


My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Sorry, still on other projects. My experience with MuseScore 3 import of Music XML is that it was great for two reasons: 1) it read files other notation programs would not, and 2) it gave you a clue to the error.

Other programs would just crash. No message, no help. It is pretty easy to read the code, but still …


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 36
R
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
R
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 36
This was an interesting watch to see how it came together. I can only dream for a similar UI overhaul in BB haha.


Last edited by Ryan_R; 12/24/22 09:39 PM.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
I just tested loading a BIAB MGU file into Musescore 4.0.

Total disaster.

Yes, we wait.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
M
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
M
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,110
Did you put a bug report in ?

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Originally Posted By: musocity
Did you put a bug report in ?
Seems like this is well known.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,454
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,454
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I just tested loading a BIAB MGU file into Musescore 4.0.

Total disaster.

Yes, we wait.

The Musescore people have admitted from the release of 4.0 that a number of features are missing and that may well be one of those features.

I have yet to try this, but my first attempt at a workaround for any of these types of issue would be to first do what I want in Musescore 3, save it, then open it again in Musescore 4. A bit tedious, but may well achieve what one wants.


Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11
BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software.
Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts
.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 26,950
A reasonable test idea. Thanks, will try that.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,192
Update is available. cool

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Screenshot 2023-01-14 151540.jpg (26.47 KB, 70 downloads)

BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, 1TB WD Black NVMe SSD, 2TB WDC Blue SSD, 1TB WD Blue, 2 TB SK NVMe, 6 TB External, Motu Audio Express 6x6

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2025 Italian Version is Here!

Cari amici
È stata aggerate la versione in Italiano del programma più amato dagli appassionati di musica, il nostro Band-in-a-Box.
Questo è il link alla nuova versione 2025.

Di seguito i link per scaricare il pacchetti di lingua italiana aggiornati per Band-in-a-Box e RealBand, anche per chi avesse già comprato la nuova versione in inglese.

Band-in-a-Box 2025 - Italiano
RealBand 2025 - Italiano

Band-in-a-Box 2025 French Version is Here!

Bonjour à tous,

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 pour Windows est disponible en Français.
Le téléchargement se fait à partir du site PG Music

Pour ceux qui auraient déjà acheté la version 2025 de Band-in-a-Box (et qui donc ont une version anglaise), il est possible de "franciser" cette version avec les patchs suivants:

BIAB 2025 - francisation
RealBand 2025 - francisation

Voilà, enjoy!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 German Version is Here!

Band-in-a-Box 2025 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Die deutsche Version Band-in-a-Box® 2025 für Windows ist ab sofort verfügbar!

Alle die bereits die englische Version von Band-in-a-Box und RealBand 2024 installiert haben, finden hier die Installationsdateien für das Sprachenupdate:

https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025.exe
https://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/languagesupport/deutsch2025RB.exe

Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 to Build 1128 for Windows Today!

Already using Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 1128 now from our Support Page to enjoy the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Stay up to date—get the latest update now!

Update to RealBand® 2025 Build 5 Windows Today!

Already using RealBand® 2025 for Windows®? Download Build 5 now from our Support Page to ensure you have the latest enhancements and improvements from our team.

Get the latest update today!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 for Windows is Here!

PowerTracks Pro Audio 2025 is here! This new version introduces many features, including VST3 support, the ability to load or import a .FLAC file, a reset option for track height in the Tracks window, a taller Timeline on the Notation window toolbar, new freeze buttons in the Tracks window, three toolbar modes (two rows, single row, and none), the improved Select Patch dialog with text-based search and numeric patch display, a new button in the DirectX/VST window to copy an effects group, and more!

First-time packages start at only $49. Already a PowerTracks Pro Audio user? Upgrade for as little as $29!

www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm

Video: Summary of the New Band-in-a-Box® App for iOS®

Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new Band-in-a-Box® app for iOS®! Designed for musicians, singer-songwriters, and educators, this powerful tool lets you create, play, and transfer songs effortlessly on your iPhone® or iPad®—anytime, anywhere.

Band-in-a-Box® for iOS® :Summary video.

Check out the forum post for more information.

Forum Statistics
Forums58
Topics84,126
Posts775,090
Members39,564
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
jl1, DKL, EdHumbleton, sindanform, MisterSala
39,564 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 185
DC Ron 96
rsdean 89
WaoBand 86
Noel96 74
BYOBand 68
Today's Birthdays
barrywear
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5