|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, floyd jane. Love the sound of this. Fresh is the word that comes to mind. And it moves - propels you along with it. Good to hear! I was trying to be a bit more "pop" than usual. I asked one of my daughters what she thought of it, and she said her foot was tapping, so that was a good thing.  I like the write. Especially the melody. Also good to hear. Since I tend to write backwards - starting at the beginning until I figure out where it ends - I can't always tell if all the parts come together. I think they do, but it's good to hear confirmation. Won't even mention how good you make those virtual singers sound. That's a given. Well, the singers have gotten incrementally better as well. Plus, I  I just wish I had the skills to craft a solo from scratch. One of many things to work on, I guess. The drums are interesting. The snare was...different. Good to experiment (many producers are using "different" snares these days). I'm not entirely sold on the "new" snare, in that it's got less punch than the prior snare. That brings the energy of the production down a bit, and the singers need all the support they can get. I kept expecting the chorus to "soar". The verse melody seemed to indicate it would. Ah, my nemesis: the chorus. The chorus sounded like a bridge to me - the melody and where it went. That happened each time.
Each time, I expected that chorus to "rise". If I were a pro, I'd have another go at this. But I've (probably) grown too attached to this version to repair it, so I'll keep that in mind for the next write. You obviously put a lot of thought into each aspect of the creation of a song. I applaud you. Thanks, I appreciate the helpful feedback!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,355
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,355 |
David...great pop sound and very nice melody...Natalie is in fine voice...every instrument is clear and distinct...super production again!
www.soundclick.com/firesongBiaB 2024, Steinberg Cubase Pro 13, Wavelab 11.2, SpetraLayers Pro 10, Audacity, Steinberg UR44 Interface, Yamaha Genos, Roland FP60 and FP10, Windows 10 You are who you are because you do what you do because of what you believe.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,166
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,166 |
David,
I like the melody and the arrangement. I may be echoing other posters but the guitars overwhelm her vocal on my listening system. That’s my only quibble.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, Fred. I like the melody and the arrangement. I may be echoing other posters but the guitars overwhelm her vocal on my listening system. That’s my only quibble. Well, that shouldn't be happening.  I've actually got TrackSpacer (an auto-ducking plugin) on the background guitars to help prevent that from happening. I made some tweaks to the track that should help with that. Thanks for letting me know!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,727
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,727 |
I know I listened and commented on this previously.... however, I don't think I hit the submit button... duh.
This has a nice drive to it. Lyrically, it's well done as well. The solo on the guitar is well done. Great choice of tracks. The singer has good tone.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 3,603
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2018
Posts: 3,603 |
Good ol' Nat is fine form. I was reminded at bit of Belinda Carlisle. Maybe it was the vibrato in parts.
Guitar solo sounds good to me. Super dope!
"two strangers/both choosing losing sides" --I like this line
Solid chorus.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 2,820
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 2,820 |
I didn't like the original version because of the snare, but your final mix sounds good to me. Lyrics and vocals have the expected quality and I enjoyed the listen. When Natalie sings for you, she always has a nice Karen Carpenter touch My only criticism is that while I would classify the song in the "easy listening" genre, it's a bit too "easy" for me, as it doesn't have a distinct chorus (lyrically it does, but there's no dynamics or other variety).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,900
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 4,900 |
Man, I truly appreciate your effort and detail, and especially the result of all that hard work. This is terrific, David. The melody and lyrics work really well, and the overall mix (as it is now) is perfect. You do an excellent job with Natalie, and thanks to you and others here she is becoming one of my favorite vocalists.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,969
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 15,969 |
We like the lyric rhyme scheme and like the slight changes as each verse comes along. it's a great melody and Natalie sounds excellent ... of course it should be no surprise that J&B would like the contralto range. You definitely captured the 80’s vibe and guitar solo sounds just fine to us. We love a good snare pop and work hard to achieve it so V1 of the drums was fine with us. We always enjoy the backstory. Do you give your son and daughter copyright credits? Kudos! J&B
Our albums and singles are on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, YouTube Music, Pandora and more. If interested search on Janice Merritt. Thanks! Our Videos
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, Herb. I know I listened and commented on this previously.... however, I don't think I hit the submit button... duh. Heh. I suspect I've "lost" some posts the same way. This has a nice drive to it. Lyrically, it's well done as well. The solo on the guitar is well done. Great choice of tracks. The singer has good tone. Thanks! I appreciate the kind words, and you taking the time to write them!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, Scott. Good ol' Nat is fine form. I was reminded at bit of Belinda Carlisle. Maybe it was the vibrato in parts. Good to hear! Guitar solo sounds good to me. Super dope! Ha! I think I need to get used to the idea that a song can have space where someone doesn't sing. For some reason, I think people will consider it "filler" between the lyrics. Probably because I probably put a bit too much focus on that. "two strangers/both choosing losing sides" --I like this line Thanks! Sometimes the words finally work out. Thanks for that as well. I appreciate the feedback!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, B.D. I didn't like the original version because of the snare, but your final mix sounds good to me. Cool. It's strange how a single element can shape our feelings about something. Lyrics and vocals have the expected quality and I enjoyed the listen. When Natalie sings for you, she always has a nice Karen Carpenter touch Thanks! That's the main reason I choose Natalie - she's got "that" sound. My only criticism is that while I would classify the song in the "easy listening" genre, it's a bit too "easy" for me, as it doesn't have a distinct chorus (lyrically it does, but there's no dynamics or other variety). Noted, I'll see what I can do in the future. Thanks for stopping by to post.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, Marty. Man, I truly appreciate your effort and detail, and especially the result of all that hard work. Well, all that doesn't amount to much if it doesn't work...  Although that's not really accurate, is it? Almost every failure (and success) can be looked at afterward to see where things went wrong, and perhaps serve as a guide for future attempts. And I still go back to older songs on a regular basis and see if I've learned enough to fix problems. Sometimes it works, other times it just reminds me I've got a lot to learn. This is terrific, David. The melody and lyrics work really well, and the overall mix (as it is now) is perfect. You do an excellent job with Natalie, and thanks to you and others here she is becoming one of my favorite vocalists. Thanks!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, Janice and Bud. We like the lyric rhyme scheme and like the slight changes as each verse comes along. Thanks! it's a great melody and Natalie sounds excellent ... of course it should be no surprise that J&B would like the contralto range. It's a great place to be able to sing. Lucky you! You definitely captured the 80’s vibe and guitar solo sounds just fine to us. We love a good snare pop and work hard to achieve it so V1 of the drums was fine with us. I'm glad someone liked it other than me! We always enjoy the backstory. I actually cut that backstory way down because the forum wasn't letting me post it. I thought it was because it was too long, but it turned out to be a mis-matched tag. Luckily, nothing important got lost in the edit. There's a probably a moral there, if I bothered to look... Do you give your son and daughter copyright credits? No, but they get a quarter of the profits! Praise and honor accepted, thanks!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,157
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,157 |
David,
As long as I only listened to this work, it really caught my attention easily.
Natalie is also very natural and the melodies are very approachable.
So, I was surprised when I read about your production process.
I was impressed by how hard the work was being done.
I felt that I would not be able to do the same thing.
I really enjoyed listening to it.
Best Regards.
Shigeki Adachi
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,373
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 20,373 |
Hi David. This is outstanding. You've really set a very high bar indeed when it comes to achieving realism from vocaloids. I've got a long, long way to go! I'm really grateful for your detailing all your work and all your plug-ins. I struggle a lot with mixing and getting the 'best' out of my arrangements. I've picked up some excellent insights here. In the words of Synth V, "th ae ng k y uw" --Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, Shigeki. Natalie is also very natural and the melodies are very approachable. Thanks! It was very kind of you to go back and find this song. So, I was surprised when I read about your production process.
I was impressed by how hard the work was being done.
I felt that I would not be able to do the same thing. Just because I have problems doesn't mean someone else would. I have a feeling anything you tried would be fantastic. I really enjoyed listening to it. I can't ask for more than that.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,143 |
Hi, Noel. This is outstanding. You've really set a very high bar indeed when it comes to achieving realism from vocaloids. I've got a long, long way to go! That's a nice thing to say, but I've heard the songs you've posted, and they say otherwise. I'm really grateful for your detailing all your work and all your plug-ins. I struggle a lot with mixing and getting the 'best' out of my arrangements. I've picked up some excellent insights here. I'm glad someone learns from my mistakes! In the words of Synth V, "th ae ng k y uw" Although SynthV would actually say "y ao r w eh l k ax m".
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,335
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,335 |
David, I like the melody and Natalie does a fine job with it. The production is great and the guitar solo is perfect. I like the drums but of course I lean towards loud drums. Well done, Tom
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
User Showcase
|
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,548
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 2,548 |
You have a talent for melody. The mix sounds perfect, to my ears - though, as you know, I'm not a "technical specialist", haha - I can only go by my own ears, and they tell me the mix is fine as it is . Where this song does shine, I think, is the melody and storytelling. Natalie shines, here, also ... whatever you've done to her voice to make her sing like this, keep doing it And, again, the writing itself is stellar. Thumbs up from me
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,758
Posts795,896
Members39,952
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean