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Jim i cut my teeth on Music creator, having used versions 1, 2.3, 3,and 5 which i still have. But i never enjoyed tracking in it. It is a decent program, but for me no better than RB is here. Sure it allows use of jamstix timing lock, but i own Sonar X-1c which is MC's big brother. I also own Presonus studio one v 2 Producer, and they are far ahead of MC 6 in features. Most of the MC products are usually one or two versions behind their Sonar brethrn in terms of production. MC6 is just getting skylight, but Sonar has had it since X-1 so really MC is Sonar X-1 lite. If you really want a deal, and are a MC 5 owner you can upgrade to Sonar X-3 for the same $49 and have far more than MC offers http://www.store.cakewalk.com/b2cus/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=10-CXSR3.00-30E
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
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Robh,
I hear you. I started with MC2 and advanced through 3, 5 and just upgraded to 6 last October only because BestBuy was offering the box version of MC6 for $19.95. My wife found a $10 promo code so my cost was $9.95. Too good a deal to pass up. Cakewalk offered a free download of Touch so I got it too even though it won't work on my computer.
My brother loves Presonus Studio One.
Sonar X3 looks great but it also won't run on my computer. A new computer with Win 7 or Win 8 is in my future but I'm gonna enjoy what I've got for awhile longer.
Last edited by JimFogle; 12/17/13 01:59 PM.
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A little mustard after the meal as they say over here.
Regarding VST plugins: Today my work routine in song construction & composing is that basically i would start a song or idea by having a melody put into BIAB with some chords and mess with song construction. Then try some styles, and if i found something useful there and to my liking, i export RT wavs and the eventually present MIDI to Cubase. BTW the BIAB live drums do sound great at times as they are, but mostly unusable for a final mix IMO because of reverb present in the live drum tracks coming from BIAB (even with export set to "dry" etc). So in Cubase i replace them mostly with EZdrummer or maybe Groove Agent, and do a lot of editing to boot. My biggest nag with this way of working is that it eats tons of time, especially when you change the arrangement later, and have to go back to BIAB and redo a lot of exports.
Sometimes the RT-wavs are not generated correctly with an occasional wrong chord, and also when you use 2/4 bars inserted in a basically 4/4 song. Occasionally stop/hold files are not correct or missing. Workaround: at times i generate separate chords, stops and holds in a separate BIAB "song" and add/edit them in Cubase. PS i am not too fond of Realband BTW, slowish rendering and cumbersome shifting of audio file positions compared to Cubase, and less control in regards to timing and WAV mutilation. But the BIAB exported results are sometimes worth all this mayhem LoL.
Besides all that: I stopped complaining about the impossibility to slave BIAB to an external midi clock or even MTC signal years ago. IMO a real miss ... - F
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Hi fiddler2007
"BTW the BIAB live drums do sound great at times as they are, but mostly unusable for a final mix IMO because of reverb present in the live drum tracks coming from BIAB (even with export set to "dry" etc)."
I am able to save the biab .SGU file without reverb, then convert to .wav using the file menu option, not the dropbox, and get dry tracks to import into other programs. I also set the song to not have reverb on any tracks, then save it as mysong-dry.sgu. Then convert to .wav.
"Sometimes the RT-wavs are not generated correctly with an occasional wrong chord,"
This gets frustrating I know. I haven't had the issue in RB but yes in BIAB2016. Freezing all tracks except the offender (usually Strings track) then regenerate until I get something acceptable. Or something acceptpable in that bar of the song. Convert and export/import into DAW on separate track then cut/copy/paste/smooth cuts onto one track.
Does the noise in your head bother me ?
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