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Title: A Fool (How to Cause a Complete Disaster, Part 1)

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After (finally) watching Floyd's "The Birth of a Song" video where he mentions that every song should be a love song I decided to, well, write a love song.
A simple, cheesy love song. With a simple, cheesy video.
Blame Floyd, it's all his fault!

The song is basically about the same problem as in the movie "Harry and Sally": a boy and a girl are best friends until one of them falls in love with the other and from then on everything gets complicated.

Feedback (the good, the bad and the ugly) as always highly appreciated.

Some background information that no one asked for:
  • I'm sorry to start 2 songs in a row with a piano arpeggio, but that was the only way my chord progression for the intro
    (C#m A D G# G#m G) creates this enchanting mood that made me write this song.
  • the arragement started with tons of instruments (mostly guitars, as usual), and during the mixing/production phase the song became
    better with every instrument I removed.
    Now I know how John Cage wrote 4′33″ :-)
  • I was never 100% happy with the song, but not 100% unhappy either.
    But it wouldn't make sense not to release a finished song just because of the author's usual doubts.


As always, a BIG "thank you" to Marty for linguistic advice. Love ya'

Some technical information:
Style: BACH_1.STY (yes, really!)

The band:
Bass: 4363
Drums: SkaSlow70sWesPerc + PopRock8ths
Guitars: 4383, 3307, 3931
Synth: 1543
Piano: 1264 + yours truly (with a Bosendorfer 290)
Viola: 2336
Vocals: Natalie

You can find the lyrics in the next post.

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Title: A Fool (How to Cause a Complete Disaster, Part 1)

(Verse 1)
I look at the sky
At the fading sound
Of what I never said
Never said to you
Sadness all around
The unspoken thoughts
That never found a home
A home in your heart
In your heart
Can't look you in the eye
Afraid to say a word
Ashamed of what I feel

(Chorus 1)
You've always been my friend
My little brother from another mother
That is why I thought I can't love you
But I do
I don't wanna stay
Your sister from another mister
I want more, I want your love
I'm a fool
Such a fool

(Verse 2)
When I am at home and the night is long
I feel alone, but it's different from before
We know each other so well
But you never realized
That there's something deep inside
That friendship can't satisfy

(Chorus 2 )
That's why I don't wanna stay
Your sister from another mister
I want more
The worst case that could be for me
That I would be the master of a big disaster
Then I'd lose it all, my friend, my love
I'm a fool
Such a fool

(Outro)
A fool
A fool
A fool
A fool
A fool

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Hi B.D (or Brain),

What a marvelous song (again) you made here, wow!!!
In all what happened in the song, What I most admired was the ending with different twists in Natalie's singing as she sang 'a fool' several times and always a little differently.
I am really impressed by this song, and I already was impressed by your former songs...
And I almost forgot the very nice video-impressions and the lyrics.
Yes, I enjoyed this song!

Hans


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I like it. The melody is great...And the dynamics are superior.

Nicely done


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Brian, (I guess that is your name???)

I think you watched the wrong video.

Floyd was saying that the song should be in the key of G with a maximum of four chords, and should focus on an egocentric but heroic male character who drives all beautiful women crazy so they leave him and then beg him to come back to him because they miss his greatness, but he says he is too busy for them now and writes a Band-in-the-Song about them as punishment.

The song you wrote is more in line with the lessons provided here:



You should be thinking:

Tight silver spandex pants
An over-inflated Codpiece
a Trapeze Act
A five minute synth solo
hair implants
Groupies
Gratuitous Sex
The Max Martin secret hit song recipe*
* If you do not know what that is please stop writing songs

However, I think you are getting very close, and your wife should be pleased that you are very close to being the Eurovision winner of 2024.

Good job old bean.

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B.D.

This is neither simple OR cheesy.
A very original Love song.

LOVE those guitars!!! A great sound, well done!

You always make Natalie sound good.

Excellent Mix. Nice Drums.
An Excellent Arrangement, too..

I'll gladly take the blame for that.
smile

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Brain, this is really good.
Great job on that vocal synth, she sounds so real!
There are really good dynamics in this one.
Great backing band!
Super mix,


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Yeah, I think that Birth Of... post should be required listening. You are one of the masters of controlling those synth vocals. Really outstanding, Brain. I like how you worked in the "master from disaster," but my all-time favorite is "sister from another mister." Very cool vid, too. In our discussions about the lyrics did I ever mention how muc I like th song. Very good write. I like how the melody keeps bringing us in, and then we are rewarded with the lyrics.


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This is excellent. I didn't realise it was vocal synth until after it finished and I read the background in your post. Wow!
I love the tone you managed to create for Natalie. In addition, the way you shaped her performance was superb.
The production is awesome! You've amazing arranging chops.
Loved it!
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Well done!!! Melody is very interesting, and arrangement rocks!!! I guess Natalie is a synthV singer? Sounds great!! Take care. Greg

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Brian,

This is great. Superb production. Awesome song and Natalie is sounding tremendous here.

Loved it.

Bob

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B.D.,

You’ve done a great job on this . . . your arrangement and production is super clear . . . and your use of the vocaloid is first rate. Very moody, rich sound. Yeah, simply and cheesy are two words that definitely do no apply to this. Excellent!

Kindest regards,

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I enjoyed everything but two lines...
"My little brother from another mother"
&
"Your sister from another mister ".
Those lines took my brain away from the narrative and music to a place where i self debated the use of them.
Probably just a thing I do - sorry.
fab arrangement, good general narrative and well mixed.
Natalie was very well done.


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Originally Posted by Birchwood
Hi B.D (or Brain),

What a marvelous song (again) you made here, wow!!!
In all what happened in the song, What I most admired was the ending with different twists in Natalie's singing as she sang 'a fool' several times and always a little differently.
I am really impressed by this song, and I already was impressed by your former songs...
And I almost forgot the very nice video-impressions and the lyrics.
Yes, I enjoyed this song!

Hans
Thank you for your kind feedback, Hans.
Synthesizer V sings the same word differently depending on the context, but you can also do it by hand, and I use that extensively.
And when the instruments play different chords each time (here G Gm F Fm), the perception of the vocals also changes.

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Originally Posted by Guitarhacker
I like it. The melody is great...And the dynamics are superior.

Nicely done
Thanks Herb smile

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Originally Posted by David Snyder
I think you watched the wrong video.
Floyd was saying that the song should be in the key of G with a maximum of four chords...
Hmh...
My song actually IS in G (well, most of it).
But... let's count... nope, I used 13 different chords. Now I'm worried...

Originally Posted by David Snyder
The song you wrote is more in line with the lessons provided here:
...
Now I'm even MORE worried.

Originally Posted by David Snyder
The Max Martin secret hit song recipe*
* If you do not know what that is please stop writing songs

However, I think you are getting very close, and your wife should be pleased that you are very close to being the Eurovision winner of 2024.

Good job old bean.
Regardless of whether you like Max Martin or not, he has an undeniable instinct for good melodies.

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Nice work - solid arrangement that has variety and does interesting things, and excellent vocals.


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Hi B.D.

I really enjoy your productions, really well done in all aspects. Great dynamics!

Very much enjoyed.

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That’s a fine love song. We love the piano arpeggios and they help set the mood.

The build and dynamics throughout are the signs of a great arrangement and mix.
And this is one indeed.

As always, your video is very supportive.

Natalie sounds great!

Enjoyed it!

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Originally Posted by floyd jane
B.D.

This is neither simple OR cheesy.
A very original Love song.

LOVE those guitars!!! A great sound, well done!

You always make Natalie sound good.

Excellent Mix. Nice Drums.
An Excellent Arrangement, too..

I'll gladly take the blame for that.
smile

fj
Glad you like my little love song, Floyd.
This time the guitars were quite a job to make them sit well the mix, they were EQ-ed to death, and then some...

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