|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410 |
Hi Folks, I've just updated to .5 on BB and Realband. BB seemed to go well, but Realband wouldn't run after the update. I installed the update again - did a return to factory settings - reconfigured everything and Realband now starts and runs correctly. But the thing is, output from both Sampletank and Kontakt seems to be much hotter that before. I can open a midi file (that was made in BB) that used to play well, and some to the instruments will drive my M-Audio Delta into the red.  I sort of like it except I'll have to readjust my midi files if I want to use them in Realband. That's not really a problem for me, because I always remix everything before going to .Wav anyway. I'm running XP SP3, 1.8 duo with 3 gig. M-Audio Delta. My question is, has anyone else ran across this. In other words, is there anyone who can load a VSTi and a midi file, and see if they are outputting more than before the update? Jim
I'd be completely happy if I had just one more guitar.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,540
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 22,540 |
Yes, synths may appear a little louder..
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,730
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,730 |
This is one of the issue i was refering to in another thread. In RB Sampletank will alway start at full volume until you move the volume fader on the track, then it will pickup the reading from that track and adjust to the volume of the fader.
This i assume is caused by the VSTi not totally syncing with the host. I guess it is part of the same problem of the timing issue.
So just take the fader of the midi track and move it slightly and it should then set at the proper volume setting that the fader is sending.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410 |
Hi Fellows and thanks for posting.
rharv: After more testing, I think you are right in stating it as a slight increase. That's what I'm seeing with Kontakt. The master volume in SampleTank was somehow set higher and that threw me off until I figured it out.
Robh: I hear you bud. I've just wasted another two hours trying to get some sort of work flow established with Realband and ST. :>( I give up. lol
Later,
Jim
I'd be completely happy if I had just one more guitar.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,730
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,730 |
Yeah i just expect to have to do a volume adjust after adding ST into any track.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272 |
Somewhat related to this, I too am using Sampletank (I'm using RB 2010; haven't yet upgraded to 2010.5). It works well in RB for me for the most part, but I've noticed that when operating the volume slider in RB I can never get a track armed with ST to go to the max 127 setting. They will only go to 97 when maxed. I can go into Sampletank and manually adjust the volume knob to 127, but when the song is stopped and re-started, it pops back to 97.
At first I thought it was a cc setting, but even after stripping all of the continuous control settings out of a track, this behaviour still persists. So for now I've just learned to live with it. If anyone has any insight on this, please let me know. Thanks.
Terry
BIAB/RB 2018 PlusPak. Dell Inspiron23 running Win10, 12GB RAM, 2.5GHz i7, Presonus AudioBox USB interface.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,730
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 8,730 |
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410 |
Hi Terry,
I may be misreading you, but I think that's the way it's supposed to work. RB can send cc messages to ST, but ST cannot send cc messages to RB. That would be normal for about any vsti I would think. Try this. Left click to Select the track you want, then right click and select 'insert volume change'. (it's toward the bottom) Set what you want . Then Hit your dxi button so that you can see ST, move that window around a little until you can see your play button on RB. Hit play and see in your vol doesn't go to the exact value you put in. It should. And of course, if you hit save, that info is saved in the event list and it should persist. If you want a volume change anywhere else, right click out in the track (say bar 15) and that should move the cursor there, do the 'insert' thing again and it should place that change exactly where the cursor is. Hope this helps
Jim
I'd be completely happy if I had just one more guitar.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272 |
To Robh, yes that is what I have been doing (bouncing to audio so I can set the track volume where it needs to be.
To Jim, I will try your suggestions to see what happens.
I'm just curious though as to what is controlling the volume relationship between the two programs, and why 127 in RB seems to equate to 97 in ST. In RB, when I move a track's volume slider, it indeed changes the volume knob in ST, but it is not a 1 to 1 relationship, meaning 127 seems to equal 97, and lesser volume numbers in RB equate to similar unequal levels in ST. And then, as stated, even with all control commands stripped out in RB, a "127" setting in ST will revert back to 97 when the song is stopped and started again. Load a completely different song file and the same thing occurs.
Terry
BIAB/RB 2018 PlusPak. Dell Inspiron23 running Win10, 12GB RAM, 2.5GHz i7, Presonus AudioBox USB interface.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410
Journeyman
|
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 410 |
Hi Terry,
When I have ST loaded and open where I can watch it, I can move the slider in RB and watch the numbers change in the vol column in ST. I can take the number down to 0 and up to 127. If you can't do that, you might want to contact support. I'm running .5 by the way.
Jim
I'd be completely happy if I had just one more guitar.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
RealBand
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272
Apprentice
|
|
Apprentice
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 272 |
Ok Jim, maybe this was something that got fixed in .5. I'll have to re-visit the issue when I get the next upgrade. Thanks.
Terry
BIAB/RB 2018 PlusPak. Dell Inspiron23 running Win10, 12GB RAM, 2.5GHz i7, Presonus AudioBox USB interface.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
Season's Greetings!
Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!
The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.
Team PG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,055
Posts799,501
Members40,024
| |
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean