BIAB 2023 is very stable here on VENTURA. I’m an audio guy and a software developer who writes code for macs and windows, but not a PG staff person. Just a normal user. But I’ve been coding on macs and windows for decades. Apple loves to make breaking changes every year to their OS. They expect everyone to visit every line of their 10 million or 20 million lines of code and find where apple broke things and change it. It’s really remarkable that anyone writes code for Mac OS, given the burden Apple imposes.

I would really not suggest anyone go on SONOMA who wants to get work done on their macs, especially not for audio production until sonoma is (a) blessed by PG MUSIC, (b) blessed by a good percentage of the plugin makers.

I would expect BIAB, CUBASE, NI Komplete, and all the other audio app people to take six months to a year to update and find all the things apple did.

Every time this happens can we all remind ourselves; It’s apple who breaks stuff and leaves everyone at all these software companies scrambling to find what thing Apple did this time to break all the millions of applications out there that exist and worked fine with last year’s OS. PG Music will like everyone else need time to find what changed, and make fixes. And the nature of modular music apps is that you could have crashes from VST and AU plugins also. BIAB can be 100% ready for sonoma, and yet you still can’t move because a plugin you need isn’t ready. And Sonoma probably has lots and lots of new kernel level bugs. Who really wants to live with that while Apple finds those.

I have code I wrote in 1995 that still runs on Windows 11. I can’t run apps I wrote on XCode in 2020, in 2023, without changes. This is 100% an apple issue.

Last edited by Warren P; 10/14/23 07:43 AM.
BIAB Mac 2024
Mac Studio 2022, M1 Max, OS Ventura 13.6