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Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song DrDan #780217 10/26/23 01:32 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 25 M Milky OP Enthusiast
OP Milky Enthusiast M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 25	Originally Posted by MusicStudent So did you actually hand anotate your melody via the piano roll/ anotation tool? Or did you have the melodist compose this track for you? I put it in notation view and put in the notes on the sheet music. I first tried importing musicxml but that didn't really work so instead I just painstakingly typed in each note. Which is hard because the input tool is not very easy. Like, you have to put the note then do a "force accidental" if the note isn't natural. And then getting the right note you have to click the mouse just right, which usually takes 2 or 3 tries. Originally Posted by MusicStudent The audio files were recorded at the stated tempo. There is only so far you can deviate (+/- 15 bpm?) before you lose quality audio. I guess BIAB was made for jazz and not bluegrass. Again, why they would record at 130 and call it "fast bluegrass" is baffling. But, I just need a backing track to practice with, I'm not trying to record an album or anything. Originally Posted by MusicStudent Regarding bluegrass tempos, are you just interested in how it sounds (which you say you are, despite the poor sound quality) or are you trying to get the annotation to be correct on the sheet music? Either way, I will have to defer to others how have specific experience with this genre in BIAB. I just want it to alternate playing the rhythm and melody, so I can play along playing the melody and rhythm. It's a simple backing track for practice purposes. Can you tell me how you got that Tracks toolbar to display? I am clicking everywhere but can't find any way to show other toolbars. My screen looks like this: Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Untitled.jpg (243.12 KB, 47 downloads)

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song AudioTrack #780219 10/26/23 01:35 PM Beginners Forum
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OP Milky Enthusiast M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 25	Originally Posted by AudioTrack The result: Ok thanks. I guess I'm still learning all the screens. It's still weird that when you put in a repeat, it doesn't just repeat it exactly, but flips things around.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song Milky #780221 10/26/23 01:36 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,073 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,073 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by Milky Also, can you tell me what you clicked to see the notation in that piano roll view? I have been doing it like sheet music. This is done by selecting the Piano Roll from the Views tab: Hope this helps. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song Milky #780224 10/26/23 01:41 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,073 Melbourne, Australia	Quote Can you tell me how you got that Tracks toolbar to display? I am clicking everywhere but can't find any way to show other toolbars. My screen looks like this: I can see the Tracks Toolbar tab in the top RH part of your screen capture. Is that the one you are referring to? Last edited by AudioTrack; 10/26/23 01:43 PM. Reason: added image BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song Milky #780227 10/26/23 01:50 PM Beginners Forum
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OP Milky Enthusiast M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 25	Originally Posted by Milky Anyway, I can't find where you say the melodist tempo is 85. If I click on Guitar2 and then Track Settings, there is no tempo setting there. Where do you see this? Also where do you see 130 for the RT? If that's true, they don't understand bluegrass. These songs are played like 180 to 220. I don't understand why they would make a real track at 130 and label it "Fast Bluegrass". Maybe I'm wrong about typical bpms of these songs. I googled it and it seems they are usually recorded around 130-140. But I think it sounds a lot faster because they have a lot of 16th notes instead of 8th in the picking. I don't know, I'm still learning. I've been playing Blackberry Blossom reliably at 150 and it doesn't sound that fast. So I don't know. But I know in jams songs will get a lot faster than the recorded versions but I think that's just people feeling it and full of whiskey.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song AudioTrack #780228 10/26/23 01:55 PM Beginners Forum
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OP Milky Enthusiast M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 25	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Quote Can you tell me how you got that Tracks toolbar to display? I am clicking everywhere but can't find any way to show other toolbars. My screen looks like this: I can see the Tracks Toolbar tab in the top RH part of your screen capture. Is that the one you are referring to? Oh yep that's it. The other guy's looked different, like this: Also - how are you pasting images in your post? I have to use "Attachment Manager" and it puts it at the bottom. It looks like you are able to just paste it in line with your text? Last edited by Milky; 10/26/23 02:24 PM.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song Milky #780229 10/26/23 01:59 PM Beginners Forum
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,897 Wauconda	Originally Posted by Milky Also - how are you pasting images in your post? I have to use "Attachment Manager" and it puts it at the bottom. It looks like you are able to just paste it in line with your text? See pic BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song Milky #780230 10/26/23 02:05 PM Beginners Forum
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,897 Wauconda	Originally Posted by Milky [quote=AudioTrack][quote] Oh yep that's it. The other guy's looked different, like this: There are Two (2) different views you can use - New or OLD. I'm old. Use these buttons to toggle. BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song DrDan #780233 10/26/23 02:23 PM Beginners Forum
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OP Milky Enthusiast M Joined: Aug 2023 Posts: 25	Originally Posted by MusicStudent There are Two (2) different views you can use - New or OLD. I'm old. Use these buttons to toggle. Awesome. Thanks.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song DrDan #780245 10/26/23 06:41 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,073 Melbourne, Australia	Quote There are Two (2) different views you can use - New or OLD. I'm old. Yes Dan, we know that already Also, you can press <Crtl>T to toggle between the two views. (BTW: I'm 'New' ) Last edited by AudioTrack; 10/27/23 12:49 AM. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song Milky #780250 10/26/23 07:00 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,073 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by Milky Maybe I'm wrong about typical bpms of these songs. I googled it and it seems they are usually recorded around 130-140. But I think it sounds a lot faster because they have a lot of 16th notes instead of 8th in the picking. I don't know, I'm still learning. I've been playing Blackberry Blossom reliably at 150 and it doesn't sound that fast. So I don't know. But I know in jams songs will get a lot faster than the recorded versions but I think that's just people feeling it and full of whiskey. I think this is why Cut Common time was added to BiaB a couple of years ago. I'm not specifically familiar with Blue-Grass performances. Others might know more. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song AudioTrack #780263 10/27/23 04:20 AM Beginners Forum
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,509 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Originally Posted by Milky Maybe I'm wrong about typical bpms of these songs. I googled it and it seems they are usually recorded around 130-140. But I think it sounds a lot faster because they have a lot of 16th notes instead of 8th in the picking. I don't know, I'm still learning. I've been playing Blackberry Blossom reliably at 150 and it doesn't sound that fast. So I don't know. But I know in jams songs will get a lot faster than the recorded versions but I think that's just people feeling it and full of whiskey. I think this is why Cut Common time was added to BiaB a couple of years ago. I'm not specifically familiar with Blue-Grass performances. Others might know more. send a PM to bobflatpicker and ask him to comment here. Bob understands this topic. BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: How to make melody play on only half of the song Matt Finley #780269 10/27/23 05:46 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,073 Melbourne, Australia	Yes, excellent suggestion. He would be the definitive expert on this subject. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

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