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Can you display the notes of the input chord in layers?
For example:
When I type a 4/5 in C major, the layers show not only F/G, but also 5,6,1,4 containing notes.

Plus, I saw
When we enter a chord. Triggered by enter+shift. I see that the piano option on the right is displayed.
Could you please install this keyboard on top of BIAB software? It's bigger and it can show the inclusion sound. For example, if I type in 4/5, it says C (5,6,1,4).

However, I prefer to start with layers showing not only F/G, but also 5,6,1,4 containing notes.

Do not know the future BIAB2024 can do it?

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Your entering the chords in the chord track so of couse you will get the entire chord, which includes all elements of the triad. If you want single notes you have to enter then in the piano roll or the annotation windows for an individual track.


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Originally Posted by swingbabymix
Can you display the notes of the input chord in layers?
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Do not know the future BIAB2024 can do it?
At present, I can honestly state that no one knows what BIAB2024 can do.


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Can you display the notes of the input chord in layers?
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Do not know the future BIAB2024 can do it?
At present, I can honestly state that no one knows what BIAB2024 can do.

I bet the development team has some idea....


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Originally Posted by Byron Dickens
I bet the development team has some idea....
Well, yes, I certainly hope so, but I was of course only referring to us forum "end-users".

Historically, PGM has never hinted on new / changed features until the actual release date, and this year seems to be no exception.


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Ah, & there I was thinking that either the inquisitor had finally started to do some on task learning or had moved on to the software so often eulogized.

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Originally Posted by rayc
Ah, & there I was thinking that either to inquisitor had finally started to do some on task learning or had moved on to the often software so often eulogized.
That seems harsh. Not only is there sometimes a translation problem, but the OP has learned a great deal and has even made good suggestions for improvement.


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Ah, & there I was thinking that either to inquisitor had finally started to do some on task learning or had moved on to the often software so often eulogized.
That seems harsh. Not only is there sometimes a translation problem, but the OP has learned a great deal and has even made good suggestions for improvement.
I agree and I think also that the translation process almost certainly loses nuance, making some questions/observations sound more demanding than they were intended.

I do find this particular question confusing. I'm unclear whether he does or does not want to see the 5,6,1,4 notes, or whether he was expecting 4/5 to be just 5 & 4.


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Ah, & there I was thinking that either to inquisitor had finally started to do some on task learning or had moved on to the often software so often eulogized.
To be honest, I didn't quite understand the phrasing / terminology / intention of the above reply:

- "thinking that either to inquisitor" ?
- "or had moved on to the often software so often eulogized" ?

Therefore, I wasn't sure how to contribute, except to say that I feel that the actual O/P has continued to progress from a much earlier starting point and continued to make reasonable requests. Furthermore, I'm making allowances for a language difference that the O/P might have to deal with and actually I think I understand the O/P's request better than I understand the above response.


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Remember: The PG Forum was not created to be a place to put others down regardless of their learning level or ability to communicate in another language.

This response really pissed me off.

Come on!!!


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Thank you for your responses.

I mean can you show the internal notes of the chord. For example, if you type C, you can say (1,3,5)

It's just an extra layer of piano notes.


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I would guess that features for version 2024 are already set by this time, although we users do not know. Perhaps your suggestion would be better in the Wishlist Forum. Add as much information as you can to make clear what you would like.


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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
I would guess that features for version 2024 are already set by this time, although we users do not know. Perhaps your suggestion would be better in the Wishlist Forum. Add as much information as you can to make clear what you would like.
I would rather hope such features were fixed into release candidates at least a couple of months back, as at this stage they should be testing rigorously and finding as many latent bugs/quirks/wrinkles as they can in those release candidates.

Anything not already close to finalised by, say, the start of August should go into the 2025 release.
There's a lot of software and there are a lot of different interactions to test here.


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Ah, & there I was thinking that either to inquisitor had finally started to do some on task learning or had moved on to the often software so often eulogized.
That seems harsh. Not only is there sometimes a translation problem, but the OP has learned a great deal and has even made good suggestions for improvement.
I always give space & patience for English as a second, third or fourth language.
The lack of sense/focus in many posts may well be caused by an online translator but many is the time that the O.P. has been an agent provocateur or naive absurdist.
I have occasion to use online translator and, as a matter of course, translate to and from to find out how far from the intended idea translation strays.


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I always give space & patience for English as a second, third or fourth language.
The lack of sense/focus in many posts may well be caused by an online translator but many is the time that the O.P. has been an agent provocateur or naive absurdist.
I have occasion to use online translator and, as a matter of course, translate to and from to find out how far from the intended idea translation strays.
Aye. FWIW, I think he has very little English and relies entirely on translations. I think he uses Chinese, which has at least two main written forms and many spoken forms, and I personally have no knowledge of how spoken expression/emphasis may be incorporated. I think there's plenty of scope for straying.

He definitely does have a tendency apparently to say "I mentioned this a month ago now! How much longer is it going to take?". Where, except in a few very easy cases, I would not expect anything new to be released in less than six months.
Expecting things quickly from a fairly complex software is generally naive. The team have to decide how it might be done, or in some cases if it's even possible, then put their decision into effect, then spend quite a bit of time proving that it works and that they haven't accidentally broken something else. That latter is why I often feel BIAB needs some rationalisation, but also why PGM may be wary of so doing. And of course the despairing cries that would result of "but it used to work this way before!".

He definitely also does try things for himself and learn. He's learned things about BIAB that I didn't know (I'm sure there are still lots of those) and he's learned some music theory. He can be very frustrating (yes I sometimes walk away). I rather suspect he feels similar about us.


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My posts are more like my notes and insights in the process of learning BIAB.

For me, BIAB is not only a software that can create music quickly, but also the best tool for learning music knowledge, which is really very convenient. BIAB allows me to quickly type a chord and hear the effect of that chord (enter+shift). I can experiment a lot with chord progressions, feel the chord progression.

As a newbie, I occasionally find some places inconvenient, and I will write about them here. I hope I can make BIAB better and better. If BIAB doesn't think it needs to change, it doesn't matter, because BIAB is already very good.

About English, I can't. I had to rely on a translator. I find the translation sometimes inaccurate. Which is a shame, because I'm not good at learning languages. For now, we have to rely on translation software.

Thanks again to all the friends above for their replies!


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About English, I can't. I had to rely on a translator. I find the translation sometimes inaccurate. Which is a shame, because I'm not good at learning languages. For now, we have to rely on translation software.

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Thanks. Could you please add a function that displays the notes contained in the chord while inputting the chord?

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C (1,3,5)


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Your suggestion would be more effective in the Wishlist Forum. For clarification of your suggestion, how would you propose to handle flatted or sharped notes in such a system?


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I agree with the suggestion that this should go to the Wishlist section, where it might get better attention.


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