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TimeThere is time and there is time
until the coming of the day
time to sail upon ocean
time to let it slip away
There is time for me
and all my friends
no matter how I've grown;
time for wishing on the starry sky
and forgetting what I've known
There's Mister Allistacious
he knows just what to say
He dreams to fill the nighttime
and he listens in the day.
But if there's something he's discovered,
well he's kept it to himself
with all these childhood friends I've got here
sitting on my shelf
Here's Ollie Uncle Elephant,
he's heard all that I've said
and the whispers from my yesterdays
dance inside his sawdust head
For there is time for me
and all my friends
no matter how I've grown
Time for wishing on the starry sky
and forgetting what I've known
There is time for me
and all my friends
no matter how I've grown
time for wishing on the starry sky
and forgetting what I've knownInstruments/EffectsLead Vocal: SynthV (Natalie) -> Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Lead), LX40 Essentials, Panagement, vocal buss Backing Vocal: SynthV (Qing Su) -> Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Backing Vocal), Panagement, vocal buss Backing Vocal: SynthV (Hayden) -> Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Backing Vocal), Panagement, vocal buss Backing Vocal: SynthV (Kevin) -> Greg Wells VoiceCentric (Backing Vocal), Panagement, vocal buss Master Buss: HorNeT ThirtyOne MkII, Lurssen (Pop Rock, Warmer) Reverb Buss: LX 480 Essentials (960 Vocal Plate) Bass: BiaB, ~2482:Bass, Acoustic, Bowed Held Ev 085 Ac. Gtr x2: BiaB, 1595:Guitar, Acoustic, Fingerpicking Pop8thsSteady Ev 065 -> Panagement (Heaven) Synth Strings: BiaB, from PJONI.STY -> TrackSpacer, Panagement, Raum (Airy) Drums: NashPopBallad^03 -> Panagement (Wood) Violin: SampleModeling Strings, Violin -> Reverb Buss Viola: SampleModelingStrings, Viola -> Reverb Buss Cello: SampleModeling Strings, Cello -> Reverb Buss English Horn: SWAM Woodwinds, English Horn -> Panagement, Reverb Buss Solo Violin: SampleModeling Strings -> Pangement, Reverb Buss Celeste: CineSamples, Mister Rogers' Celeste -> Panagement, Reverb Buss Music Box: Orange Tree Samples, TinyBox -> Panagement, Reverb Buss Rhodes Piano: The Famous E Electric Piano (Angela) -> Reverb Buss Tremelo Strings: LA Sessions, Studio Violins (Swells long) -> Reverb Buss The StoryThis is a song I wrote over 30 years ago, semi-inspired by Tom Waits' Time. I made a couple recent attempts to record it, but my voice isn't up to the task. I decided to have a go at it with SynthV. I'd envisioned it with a male lead, but I auditioned all the voices I had, and Natalie sounds great. After rendering out the song in BiaB, I imported it into SynthV and worked out the notes. I'd already had the lyrics, so that part was - for once - simple. Once that was done, I decided to try out some harmonies, so I've got Kevin, Hayden and Weina on the background vocals. I ended up shuffling some of the sections around. The piano part was very MIDI-ish, so I ended up redoing that myself on a sampled Rhades piano. There's a string pad already, but I thought it might be nice to have a string trio, so I played that using SWAM instruments my EWI. The extra instruments are playing "gestures" more than melody, and my daughter complained that it needed more melody. So I added a SWAM english horn, also using the EWI. There's a spot for an instrumental, which after trying various instruments went to the cornet... also played on the EWI. The music box/celeste was a last minute addition, as the introduction wasn't really working that well. I'd gotten the Mister Rodger's Celeste some time ago, and it's got a lovely sound. I'm glad I finally got a chance to use it. I added a bit of tremelo string swells, and thought I'd call it a day. Then my daughter complained that the english horn after the instrumental didn't really fit... something I'd been hoping could slide by. So chopped out half the instrumental so it merged into the chorus, and repeated the chorus. It was something I'd arrived at by accident, but intended to do from the start. So after a bunch of cutting and pasting and making a general mess of things, I think I've got a final version of the song. The mix might be a little hot, I've been playing around with various mastering effects. And yeah... I really need to work on coming up with better song titles.  My wife says that the cornet is too much of a "jump scare" and suggested I use a violin instead, even though there's already a violin in the mix. No doubt my schmaltzy playing doesn't help. Edit: I replaced the cornet solo with a violin, which works much better. I've also replaced the SWAM solo strings with SampleModeling strings, as they are a less synthetic. As usual, any feedback is welcome. I'll probably continue to tweak this as time goes on.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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David,
This is whimsical and beautiful . . . the synth vocal works just perfect . . . as do the BGV harmonies. Really like the cello in the breaks. Yeah, I'm not sure about that horn in the break following "forgetting what I've known" . . . it sounds a bit harsh and not a fit for the tune. I like the horn that follows after the last verse better . . . it's softer and better suits the feel of the tune. Absolutely love, love, love, those vocal harmonies in the close--just brilliant!! You really do work wonders with the vocaloids.
All my best to you,
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Hi, Deej. This is whimsical and beautiful . . . the synth vocal works just perfect . . . as do the BGV harmonies. Thanks!  Really like the cello in the breaks. There's actually a string trio in there, but the balance/mix obviously needs a bit of work for you to hear that.  Yeah, I'm not sure about that horn in the break following "forgetting what I've known" . . . it sounds a bit harsh and not a fit for the tune. I've replaced it with a violin that fits a lot better. I like the horn that follows after the last verse better . . . it's softer and better suits the feel of the tune. It's an "english horn", neither english nor a horn.  I agree, it's got a lovely sound. Absolutely love, love, love, those vocal harmonies in the close--just brilliant!! You really do work wonders with the vocaloids. Thanks, they really did this song a lot more justice than I could. I know, because my version was pretty cringeworthy...  Those harmonies are my favorite part of working with the synthetic voices. Once I've got a melody, it's fun to play around with harmonies and see what comes out. Sometimes I get lucky! Thanks, I appreciate the positive feedback!
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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David,
Love this... You absolutely own this space. The song, SynthV vocals and production is really outstanding. Backup vocals are wonderful.
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Beautiful. It's almost (but not quite) a Carpenters song, and I really enjoyed listening to it. My only (minor) nit is the harmonies, which are beautiful in themselves, but I think the guys somehow don't fit in. I'd take Cong and Solaria for the job because I know from my songs that they harmonize very well with Natalie. But I wouldn't worry too much about it, it's very nice the way it is now. Good job ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default/thumbs_up.gif)
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A beautiful song, you will have to introduce me to your singer. Well done
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I agree with the above sentiments.
A big masterful effort with the singers getting better and better.
https://soundcloud.com/user-646279677BiaB 2025 Windows For me there’s no better place in the band than to have one leg in the harmony world and the other in the percussive. Thank you Paul Tutmarc and Leo Fender.
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Tom Waits For No One --best all-time album title. Man, I love how you created this, David. There is so much in there and everything sounds to add just the right amount of right. Beautiful song. Great job hiring and developing Natalie. Cool harmony, too. This is so entertaining and good that I had to dive in for another spin. A beautiful song, David, and so well crafted. Time was surely different 30 years ago.
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Stylistically this'd probably fit on Heart Attack & Vine if there was a croaky male lead.
Lovely narrative and melody.
Personally I'd drop the snare level or eliminate it entirely.
As I was listening I was mentally comparing this to "On The Nickle" and noted the lack of low mids which makes the track sound a little thin against my brain's template. There's no achieving the grittiness of TW in BIAB I suppose.
Lovely song.
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Very Pretty song. A lot of work has gone into it, and it shows.
Enjoyed it.
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Wow! The time you spent on this shows up in spectacular fashion. The instruments you used are perfect for this. The vocals are super. The duet towards the end is great! Aside from the pro production and absolutely beautiful melody, the lyrics are poignant and poetic. Can you tell I liked it? Tom
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This is beautiful David. Hey, if you ever need someone who can pull off Tom Waits, give me a holler, but give me enough time to run out and grab some filterless Pall Malls and some Cutty Sark. Love this tune sir. Well done.
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Hi, Bob. Love this... You absolutely own this space. The song, SynthV vocals and production is really outstanding. Backup vocals are wonderful. Thanks! I appreciate you stopping by to listen and comment!
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Hi, B.D. Beautiful.
It's almost (but not quite) a Carpenters song, and I really enjoyed listening to it. Thanks! Natalie's got a strong Karen Carpenter vibe, and Karen is one of my favorite singers, so it's a win all around! My only (minor) nit is the harmonies, which are beautiful in themselves, but I think the guys somehow don't fit in.
I'd take Cong and Solaria for the job because I know from my songs that they harmonize very well with Natalie. I'll try then out and see what happens. I picked the voices because of the clarity of their English, but that's not really necessary for background voices. And the English has gotten a lot better in the last release. I like the sound the contrasting voices have, but your point is well taken. Thanks again!
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Hi, Laurent. A beautiful song, you will have to introduce me to your singer. Well done Thanks! You can find Natalie here: https://store.dreamtonics.com/product/vdb-natalie/
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Hi, Steve. I agree with the above sentiments.
A big masterful effort with the singers getting better and better. Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the song. I suspect it's the technology that's improving, and not me... Especially since it's a song wrote long ago.
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Hi, Marty. Tom Waits For No One --best all-time album title. Hehehe. Man, I love how you created this, David. There is so much in there and everything sounds to add just the right amount of right. Beautiful song. Great job hiring and developing Natalie. Cool harmony, too. This is so entertaining and good that I had to dive in for another spin. A beautiful song, David, and so well crafted. Time was surely different 30 years ago. Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. 30 years ago it was just me plonking away at the piano. It's amazing the creative tools we have available these day.
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Hi, Ray. Stylistically this'd probably fit on Heart Attack & Vine if there was a croaky male lead. I can do a few seconds of Tom Waits, but that all my throat can handle! Hoarse and gravelly voices are a lot more difficult to synthesize than normal phonation. The first version of SynthesizerV actually had a version that allowed glottal effects, but you needed a background in speech pathology to understand how to use it, and it got dropped. Lovely narrative and melody. Thanks! Personally I'd drop the snare level or eliminate it entirely. Unfortunately, it's not MIDI, so that means either EQing that frequency, or manually editing all the snare hits - something that doesn't have a lot of appeal to me. I've actually already done some drastic EQ cuts on it already, so... I may go back and replace it with a MIDI drum track at some point, since it's a pretty generic part. As I was listening I was mentally comparing this to "On The Nickle" and noted the lack of low mids which makes the track sound a little thin against my brain's template. There's no achieving the grittiness of TW in BIAB I suppose. Which track is thin - "On The Nickle" or "Time"? Thin or not, "On The Nickle" is a brilliant bit of writing. Thanks! I'm glad I was finally able to get it decent version of it recorded.
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Hi, Peter. Very Pretty song. A lot of work has gone into it, and it shows. Thanks! That's the important bit.
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Hi, Tom. Wow! The time you spent on this shows up in spectacular fashion. The instruments you used are perfect for this. The vocals are super. The duet towards the end is great! Aside from the pro production and absolutely beautiful melody, the lyrics are poignant and poetic. Can you tell I liked it? Thanks, I appreciate the kind words.
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.
XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!
The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!
Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!
Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!
Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!
It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!
We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!
Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:
Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!
Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!
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