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Re you asked for More ? here goes...
here's some things ive been mulling over in my mind. jeff ..yes the idea is the tag would be used as an option on recording lots of sources at once instead of laboring over each track arming it...etc.
the conundrum and how to find a practical user solution is sorta like 'the letter carrier making sure the right letters go to the right houses' or 'the air traffic controller making sure the planes go to the right taxiways'. ie sources and destinations....routing sound interface multi inputs to tracks.
nowv let's throw into the mix a major event eg as pg and jeff are canadian a future re-creation of the fab 'conquistador' by procol harum and the edmonton symphony orchestra….or for americans a re-creation of stairway to heaven live (like the brilliant heart did)…or for us brits a re-creation of ac/dc classic rock at castle donnington.
all the above are major events that might encompass large massed choirs (I miss singing in one.) rock groups and symphony orchestras ie lots of musos and singers coming together to create a memorable music event. maybe such a large event might hold clues as to how a smaller event might be handled ? given how many mics etc etc are going to be used. now throw into the mix higher transfer speed/ computer cpu tech eg usb 4 (and I'm sure usb 5 and usb 6 are on the horizon as are faster processors.) and thus the question becomes what tech to use for such a event ?
Obviously audio mixers with loads of inputs will be used (plus back ups.)
and irrespective of daw being used and computer platform how are the audio engineers going to set things up on that chosen daw/computer platform ? The only way I can see is via some sorta TAG methodology. i.e. allocate sources to destinations once again. as in…'ok chaps the choir mics will be recorded on tracks xx thru yy.' and rinse and repeat for the orchestra and the rock group or groups etc etc. ie logically connecting and arranging sources to destinations.
now obviously most gigs are lots smaller, e.g. a small jazz combo or rock group or a bunch of mates getting together, but the problem remains… sending sources to destinations. Hence I can't see any way other than using something like a tag dialogue to organise which sources are recorded on which destination tracks. i get jeffs point re user time needed to go through a track at a time and matching it with its sound device input. hence using a tag dialogue simple example …5 drum mics going to rb tracks 25 thru 29 or choir tenors going to tracks 31 thru 34 etc etc. i'm sure the event producers will use loads of computer daw tracks so they have flexibility in re-mixing a major music event back at their commercial facilities.
given the above it would seem some sorta flexible tag dialogue that allows production people to allocate ranges of like musicians eg source violins mic group to destination ranges of tracks will be 'de rigeur'. maybe also thought be given within a tag dialogue for any range having mute and solo buttons…maybe also multiple take buttons ? then of course the old chestnut needs to be addressed of ensuring new takes dont erase previous takes the user wants to keep.
In summary…not trivial stuff….with lots of potential problems doing a major or even minor event where a small combo gets together including things like a computer or audio console going on the fritz etc etc.
hope i make some sense…I await once again any rotten eggs. (my wife makes a superb egg sandwich…lol.)
i think at this point if everyone is in agreement that a new dialogue dedicated to connecting sources to track destinations is warranted…that the discussion now address what user features should such a tag have other than source and destination ranges. eg how should multiple takes be addressed and mutes and solos etc. for example maybe a user wants to solo the rock band rhythm section coming from source range 32 to 39 and destined for tracks 64 to 71….cos tracks 32 to 39 have already been recorded on.
see what i mean ? anyone else…who wants to put their oar in the water feel free. cos the above aint trivial. also at the core of my thinking is how to ensure if rb is called upon at some future event no matter how trivial with various musos/mics/instruments etc etc it wont fall flat on its face. how do other daws handle big events of the sort ive alluded to ? how do they solve the conundrum ?..cos i'm not seeing lots of info re neat solutions.
happiness to all
om
addendum. to show that this issue of sources to track destinations is not just a pg rb issue... ive been trying to see how the big boy daws do it by googling 'daw name plus arming tracks multiple input usb audio interface'.
someone else have a bash cos maybe i missed something. but im finding no info on big boy daws how they handle track arming for recording loads of tracks at once. so maybe rb can be the leader with the tag idea ?
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 11/12/23 04:39 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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