Originally Posted by dcuny
I define create as something different than minimizing an error function.
“Something different than minimizing an error function”? This could mean almost anything. An apple is different than minimizing an error function.

How about this for a working definition of “create” in this context?

Create: To produce, reveal or give rise to something unique or sufficiently dissimilar from that which came before. To bring into being or awareness a novel thing, idea or relationship which did not exist prior.

“Create” and “discover” can be very close cousins.

Generative AI creates new content like images, text and relationships based on information it has learned from a training dataset and a set of rules. And it is a tool and has already surpassed the capabilities of a human. Tools that surpass human capability is nothing new in our history.

There are tools that surpass our crushing power; think sledgehammer.
There are tools that surpass our cutting power; think scissors.
There are tools that surpass our killing power; think rifle.
There are tools that surpass our lifting power; think hydraulic systems
There are tools that surpass our ability to move on the surface of water; think speed boat.
There are tools that surpass our ability to fly; think airplane.
There are tools that surpass our vision; think micro/telescope.

It is easy to connect the dots. Why couldn’t our brains be surpassed?

There are tools that surpass our ability to store and retrieve info; think database.
There are tools that surpass our ability to compute; think hand calculator.
There are tools that surpass our ability to strategize; think Deep Blue vs Gary Kasparov

And there is a tool that has already proven it can discover and create new and relevant relationships between variables that humans haven’t seen, we call this tool artificial intelligence and we ain’t even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Drug discovery and protein folding are just two areas where this has and will shine.

And for the first time in our history we have a tool that can create a tool. ChatGPT4 can write software (in more than one language).


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