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If I think about the minor key as if the major is king.
So one of the nice things that you'll find is that major chord progressions can be applied to minor keys.
C is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Cm is 1, 2, 3b, 4, 5, 6b, 7b

Yes, may I suggest a small adjustment to emphasis that this formular works for every Key and every scale:
Major is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Minor is 1, 2, 3b, 4, 5, 6b, 7b

Including:
Melodic Minor is 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Harmonic Minor is 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, 7

Seems like we are speaking a common language now. grin

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Originally Posted by MusicStudent
Seems like we are speaking a common language now. grin


The major is king, very good.
In SCALER, the same applies.
When I understand the meaning, I will find everything so beautiful.


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Sorry, I could not resist. But, if this stuff is new to anyone, then this next list may bring the lesson home even stronger. Keep in mind, Scales and Chords are the same! So this applies to everything. Appreciating this will complete your graduation from Music Theory 101.

Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7
Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7


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Originally Posted by MusicStudent
Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7
Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7
These are known as "modes" or sometimes "church modes" and they are different ways to play the same notes. Wikipedia has a page here.

There's an explanation/demonstration I like, in English/American, here, but you may be able to find a version in your own language.


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Originally Posted by MusicStudent
Sorry, I could not resist. But, if this stuff is new to anyone, then this next list may bring the lesson home even stronger. Keep in mind, Scales and Chords are the same! So this applies to everything. Appreciating this will complete your graduation from Music Theory 101.

Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7
Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7

This is good information but I hope it doesn't confuse people. Throwing modes at some whom are having a hard time with a relative minor can be very confusing IMHO.


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Originally Posted by MusicStudent
Sorry, I could not resist. But, if this stuff is new to anyone, then this next list may bring the lesson home even stronger. Keep in mind, Scales and Chords are the same! So this applies to everything. Appreciating this will complete your graduation from Music Theory 101.

Ionian Scale (major) Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Dorian Scale Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Phrygian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Lydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, #4, 5, 6, 7
Mixolydian Scale Formula: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ♭7
Aeolian Scale (minor) Formula: 1, 2, ♭3, 4, 5, ♭6, ♭7
Locrian Scale Formula: 1, ♭2, ♭3, 4, ♭5, ♭6, ♭7

Thanks Dan,
I've seen some of these terms before but never knew what they meant.


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This is good information but I hope it doesn't confuse people. Throwing modes at some whom are having a hard time with a relative minor can be very confusing IMHO.

Understood Mario, obviouly not my intention. I consider the modes simply different scales. Just as I consider the major and minor just different scales. I thought this would tie together with our discussion of triads and chords. But this may be an overly simplistic approach. Thanks for comment. I will consider changing the order of elements in our Music 101 course curriculum going forward grin


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Originally Posted by Gordon Scott
These are known as "modes" or sometimes "church modes" and they are different ways to play the same notes. Wikipedia has a page here.

There's an explanation/demonstration I like, in English/American, here, but you may be able to find a version in your own language.

Thanks Gordon, Great video, I know this guy well. And yes you are right, fundamentally "different ways to play the same notes". My point is All scales are variation of the Major Scale. The Ionian (Major) scale is based on intervals of W,W,H,W,W,W,H while the other modes are every other combination of intervals. That consideration is addressed in my Music Theory 102. grin Or maybe I need to change things up as Mario suggested. grin

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Originally Posted by Jim Fogle
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Yes, I know that PIANO on the right can be displayed.
What I mean is, since PIANO can display chords, can it also display text. Because this can save time. I need to carefully observe the color changes of PIANO now in order to find the keys.


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Originally Posted by Jim Fogle
Band-in-a-Box can do this.


Yes, I know that PIANO on the right can be displayed.
What I mean is, since PIANO can display chords, can it also display text. Because this can save time. I need to carefully observe the color changes of PIANO now in order to find the keys.
I think an issue here would if one were to put the text at the piano images would be in getting the text to fit. It's OK with 1,3,5, but not so easy with b5, Maj7, bb7, #11, #13. One would need a larger box for the text, so would have to choose the track for which they would be displayed. The piano keyboard shows the actual notes played, independently of any enharmonic spelling, so it very effective, provided one can fully understand the notes shown. Another factor is how to decide whether to show 2 or 9, 4 or 11, 6 or 13. Not to mention how to display different voicings.

I think it would be useful, but I also think it would be fairly complex to achieve something apparently simple and personally I'm not sure it would add much value. Others may disagree with me.


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midiChordAnalyzer32-64.zip

Create a midi Chord track and put this on it.

You are a genius.

However, I still like that BIAB can do it itself.


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Navigate to Window > Big Piano Window or press Ctrl+Shift+N to open the Big Piano Window.

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Big Piano Window or press Ctrl+Shift+N to open the Big Piano Window.


I have already tuned out the grand piano.
Then I press "enter shift" on a chord to play it. However, the grand piano does not display chords. I can only flicker when playing the entire chord, right?


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Big Piano Window or press Ctrl+Shift+N to open the Big Piano Window.

I have already tuned out the grand piano.
Hmm, right ... I've mentioned how the translators can change the meaning of things.

This is a really good example of that. The translator has decided that "big piano" translates to "grand piano", however that is, of course, something completely different. "tuned out" is likely also a mis-translation.
Captioning went awry. left is Big Piano, right is Grand Piano.

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