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Dík. Ale tu som narazil na jeden problém neprehľadnosti a zaujímalo by ma či sa to dá riešiť aj nejak prehľadnejšie. Ako riešiť v BIaB napríklad opakovanie rovnakých úsekov v nejakej časti. AABB rieši iba vygenerovanie finálnej skladby ak si nadefinujem časti, ale problém je v tom, že sa javí, že to za určitých okolností vygeneruje v konečnom dôsledku milión taktov. A to nechcem. Takže napríklad: Mám A part v ktorom je 4 taktový A1 part a k nemu nejaký harmonicky iný 4 taktový A2 part. Potom je B part tak isto zložený z 4 taktového B1 a harmonicky iného 4 taktového B2 partu. Všetko sa opakuje - A1-4x, A2-4x + B1-2x, B2-2x + A1, A2. A to celé potrebujem opakovať 3x dokola, pričom je v každom je nejaký iný nástroj naviac. + samozrejme intro a záver momentálne nepodstatné. Teraz ako to riešiť aby som nemusel písať, alebo mal na obrazovke milión taktov. Ak to dám AABB tak mi vygeneruje niekoľko obrazoviek taktov s akordmi. A potom problém vidím aj ak to riešim opakovacím znamienkom, kde síce je na obrazovke podstatne menej taktov, ale ak dám opakovať part A1 4x, ktorý začína na takte 1 a končí na takte 4 , A2 časť začína na obrazovke nelogicky nie od taktu 5, ale 17 (4x4+1). Niečo podobné dole na obrázku v inej skladbe 11 a 23. A to je podľa mňa zas guláš v zápise a orientácii. On vlastne vygeneruje ten midi slíž ako to hrá bez ohľadu na logický zápis v osnove a s tým pracuje žiaľ aj na obrazovke čo do čísiel taktov a to je podľa mňa zavádzajúce. Nie je to ako napríklad aj v GTP kde máš na obrazovke logickú osnovu a v pozadí si beží midi vygenerované z nej. Dá sa to všetko riešiť aj nejak prehľadnejšie ? Nemám BIaB ešte tak prepátraný a som naučený na systém notového papiera, Sibelius, alebo napríklad GTP. Nerád pracujem s miliónom taktov a ak úž číslami taktov tak nie chaotickými, ak to v skutočnosti je pár logických taktov v notovej osnove. Tam ťa nezaujíma a neriešiš či máš v osnove 8 taktov od 1 po 8 s opakovačkou ale v skutočnosti ti hrá 16 ktorých číslo ťa nemusí trápiť. Asi mám veľké nároky :-) To AABB som si predstavoval trocha inak. Niečo v duchu, že si zadefinuješ časť A, B, C, D,.... a potom mu povieš v akom poradí to ide v skladbe po seba alebo sa v nej opakujú. A on si to potom zoradí v pozadí a tak aj prehráva, pričom na obrazovke máš stále prehľadný svoj zápis. A nie, že on to iba vygeneruje a v podstate zaplaví obrazovku hromadou taktov. AABB je určite istá pomoc, ale ....... A to opakovcie znamienko vid obrázok. Ešte BIaB nemám ani zďaleka prepátraný, takže by mi pomohlo nájsť iné riešenie toho čo opisujem, ak existuje, ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26310&filename=otazka01.jpg) Oproti org zápisu už aj v GTP kde je jasne takt 10, 11, 12, ... atď a nie 11 a naraz 23. A to je tu v BIaB ešte ten problém s dialog oknom kde je kus textu a prepínačov mimo. Takže definovať 4 opakovania v dialógu mi nehrozí. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26311&filename=otazka01b.jpg)
Last edited by JaBr; 12/10/23 07:09 PM.
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