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Ok ...
VST issues?
Also there was a way to delete / refresh BIAB preference file...sometimes it resolves internal issues.
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Hi floyd. I run MME and it's all going well for me. At one point during the early beta testing, I had some problems with excessive generation times that no one else experienced. My \bb folder is on a solid state hard drive. What I ended up doing was to run a Windows 11 routine called "Retrim". It's accessed through a disk's "Properties" and then the "Tools" tab. I'm not absolutely certain, but this seemed to fix the problem for me. A couple of days after that happened, I had a power outage while I was using BIAB. When the power came back on and I restarted BIAB, the program was working very lethargically. So again, I ran the retrim option, and it definitely fixed whatever the problem was. Because I have an SSD, though, I was very reluctant to over use this program. Below are a couple of articles about retrim and why it is good for SSDs. So the moral of my story is... if you have \bb on an SSD, consider running retrim. It might fix your problem. https://www.techspot.com/article/2600-ssd-trimming-explained/https://www.techtarget.com/searchstorage/definition/TRIM![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26403&filename=1105 optimize.png) Regards, --Noel
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Bass Thumper’s post about dust is good. And his question about whether your computer is a laptop reminds me, have you checked the Power Settings in Control Panel? If you recently had a windows update, double check that your CPU is still at 100%. Also a windows update can reactivate devices that should be disabled, like the HD audio driver for your monitor.
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Loading this changed nothing. Thanks for the link.
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Hi floyd.
I run MME and it's all going well for me. At one point during the early beta testing, I had some problems with excessive generation times that no one else experienced. My \bb folder is on a solid state hard drive. What I ended up doing was to run a Windows 11 routine called "Retrim". It's accessed through a disk's "Properties" and then the "Tools" tab. I'm not absolutely certain, but this seemed to fix the problem for me.
A couple of days after that happened, I had a power outage while I was using BIAB. When the power came back on and I restarted BIAB, the program was working very lethargically. So again, I ran the retrim option, and it definitely fixed whatever the problem was. Because I have an SSD, though, I was very reluctant to over use this program. Below are a couple of articles about retrim and why it is good for SSDs. So the moral of my story is... if you have \bb on an SSD, consider running retrim. It might fix your problem.
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--Noel Thanks for the suggestion, Noel. I ran the retrim (been 33 days). That might have "help slightly". Now every third or fourth action (click on ANYTHING) doesn't cause a stutter. I would not call that success.
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Bass Thumper’s post about dust is good. And his question about whether your computer is a laptop reminds me, have you checked the Power Settings in Control Panel? If you recently had a windows update, double check that your CPU is still at 100%. Also a windows update can reactivate devices that should be disabled, like the HD audio driver for your monitor. I am running on a desktop. As far as I can tell it is not dirty. I don't know what you mean by this: "checked the Power Settings in Control Panel?....double check that your CPU is still at 100%"I don't find anything that show CPU % in Power Settings. And how do you know if "the HD audio driver for your monitor" has been reactivated? What would I look for?
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floyd, Below are my Realtrack settings. If I recall correctly, I think I turned off the "Speed Up Generation of Realtracks". That might help. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26438&filename=1105 realtrack preferences.jpg) Also... As an experiment, under "Song Settings", could you activate "This song has playback problems"? This will force BIAB to regenerate the song in its entirety before it starts playing. This could provide some useful insight. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26439&filename=1105 this song has playback problems.jpg) Regards, --Noel
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One other thing that will help gain a bit more insight, too.
What happens when you open the song in Realband? Does everything work okay?
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Thanks for the suggestions, Noel. I will try them and let you know if they help.
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Seems like turning off all the things that make the program Fast defeats the purpose.
The changes that Misha made in his video all seem to happen on the fly.
I want that.
(I have not opened RealBand yet. I don't ever use it. I used to use it for harmony generation, but that has change - since 2022 - and I don;t care for the new algorithm.
And I would REALLY like my BIAB to work like everyone else's...)
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And one more thought  In "Audio | Audio drivers / settings" there is an option to monitor stuttering. I have never tried this so I don't know what it does but it sounds like it's a perfect fit for your situation and that it might provide some useful information. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26440&filename=1105 audio stuttering.jpg)
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Thanks for the suggestions, Noel. I will try them and let you know if they help.
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Seems like turning off all the things that make the program Fast defeats the purpose.
The changes that Misha made in his video all seem to happen on the fly.
I want that.
(I have not opened RealBand yet. I don't ever use it. I used to use it for harmony generation, but that has change - since 2022 - and I don;t care for the new algorithm.
And I would REALLY like my BIAB to work like everyone else's...) I totally understand what you are saying and I completely agree with you. My only interest is in finding out if something/anything helps your problem in any way or even creates a worse problem. This info would help development team home in on the problem you are experiencing. If it's bothersome to try please ignore my thoughts. I appreciate that I've probably gone overboard (There was one stage in testing when it took my "new in 2023" i7 computer 14 minutes to generate a song. I have no idea how the problem was solved. I'm just passing on the settings that I ended up with when everything was working in the hope that they might be useful to you.)
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And one more thought In "Audio | Audio drivers / settings" there is an option to monitor stuttering. I have never tried this so I don't know what it does but it sounds like it's a perfect fit for your situation and that it might provide some useful information. Tried that. Still got stuttering. No warnings.
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floyd,
Below are my Realtrack settings. If I recall correctly, I think I turned off the "Speed Up Generation of Realtracks". That might help.
Also... As an experiment, under "Song Settings", could you activate "This song has playback problems"? This will force BIAB to regenerate the song in its entirety before it starts playing. This could provide some useful insight.
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--Noel I tried those things. Same.
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The second last thing that I did was to set my Windows sound up as shown in the image. (#3 is simply the active component when I have BIAB playing) ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=26445&filename=1105 windows exclusive mode.jpg) Up until this year, I've always run my soundcard in "Exclusive mode" because it seemed to help with older versions of BIAB. A year or so ago, though, I remembered Simon (from PG Music) saying that it's better not to use Exclusive mode. So when I was having all my problems with 2023, I turned that off. Whether it helped or not, I don't know. I'm just passing the information on as something else that I did. The last thing I did was something that I remember Kent (from PG Music) saying a few years ago. At the time, he advised a customer to physically unplug any instruments, soundcard or MIDI connection that was connected to the computer via USB. He then said to start BIAB and reconnect things. I tried to find his post but I didn't have any success. --Noel
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The second last thing that I did was to set my Windows sound up as shown in the image. (#3 is simply the active component when I have BIAB playing)
--Noel Noel - I really appreciate all of your suggestions. Those things did not stop the stutter. Maybe I'm expecting too much. Should I expect that every time I make a volume change with a slider (or do anything else) there will be a hesitation in the playback? Is that "just the way it is"??? I'm okay with that if that is the case. It is still a HUGE advancement in the program. But if no one else is getting stutter - I DON'T WANT IT either....
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floyd,
Have you tried both the Full-screen View? of BIAB and the Standard View? If you've been using the full screen view and switch to standard view, you will probably need to open the mixer window (near the Conductor icon). Also, have you tried (a) loading a midi-only style and seeing the problem persists, and (b) return to factory settings?
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FJ, Yes, you don't want stutter Have you considered replacing preference file (so BIAB writes fresh one automatically)? I don't remember from the top of my head how to do it. It is as simple as renaming one (or two) files in bb folder. Maybe seasoned user(s) can tell you how to do that? I agree, this is one of very special updates.
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FJ, Yes, you don't want stutter Have you considered replacing preference file (so BIAB writes fresh one automatically)? I don't remember from the top of my head how to do it. It is as simple as renaming one (or two) files in bb folder. Maybe seasoned user(s) can tell you how to do that? I agree, this is one of very special updates. Hi Misha. That's the ultimate when it comes to resetting BIAB. It's certainly worth a try. Rename intrface.bbw to intrface.bbw.old and MySetup.DK to MySetup.DK.old. These files are in \bb\preferences. (Changing the extension to something like OLD will stop BIAB from loading them and force BIAB to make some new ones.) --Noel
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FJ, Yes, you don't want stutter Have you considered replacing preference file (so BIAB writes fresh one automatically)? I don't remember from the top of my head how to do it. It is as simple as renaming one (or two) files in bb folder. Maybe seasoned user(s) can tell you how to do that? I agree, this is one of very special updates. Hi Misha. That's the ultimate when it comes to resetting BIAB. It's certainly worth a try. Rename intrface.bbw to intrface.bbw.old and MySetup.DK to MySetup.DK.old. These files are in \bb\preferences. (Changing the extension to something like OLD will stop BIAB from loading them and force BIAB to make some new ones.) --Noel Noel & Misha, Thanks for persevering. That seems to have done the trick (I have never had to use that "fix" for anything). And thanks to everyone else who chimed in.
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