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I'm glad that you have gotten things up and running correctly.


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Not exactly. Yesterday he said he tried Return to Factory Settings, Most. This is supposed to do exactly the same thing that Noel described how to do manually. Why it didn’t work then, but did work just now, I can’t explain.


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Not exactly. The difference between Most and All is only in the audio driver. We focused on the audio driver from the beginning.


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I have also noticed that deleting the files can produce different results than Return to Factory Settings. RTFS possibly leaves some legacy bits somewhere that don't get reset. Deleting the files guarantees a fresh start.


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Yes, since I recall we have experienced this before, I would certainly like to know the difference.


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Originally Posted by AudioTrack
I have also noticed that deleting the files can produce different results than Return to Factory Settings. RTFS possibly leaves some legacy bits somewhere that don't get reset. Deleting the files guarantees a fresh start.
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I have also noticed that deleting the files can produce different results than Return to Factory Settings. RTFS possibly leaves some legacy bits somewhere that don't get reset. Deleting the files guarantees a fresh start.

I've also noticed this. Deleting the settings files often fixes a problem that RTFS does not.


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Originally Posted by Noel96
... I've also noticed this. Deleting the settings files often fixes a problem that RTFS does not.
Someone else posted this as a question for the developers. Let's see!


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Actually, I just read the documentation (duh), and a thorough answer is there in FAQ #93. Here it is, including the list of other files that may need to be deleted. I notice several are related to plugins on the system, but nothing specifically about the audio interface:

93. How can I return Band-in-a-Box® to the factory settings?
Band-in-a-Box® 2010 or higher uses the files listed below for configuration. If you want to restore Band-in-a-Box® to the factory settings, you can delete or rename these files. The next time you launch Band-in-a-Box®, new configuration files will be created. This can help solve or troubleshoot odd and unexplainable problems you are having with the program. The files are found in the root Band-in-a-Box® folder, usually C:\bb, and can easily be found by sorting the files in the bb folder by 'date modified'.

Important: You must have Band-in-a-Box® closed when you do this, or else it won't work.

We recommend renaming the files (rather than deleting them) or saving a copy of them somewhere else on your hard drive so that you have a backup of your old configuration. For example, you could rename intrface.bbw to intrface.old. Later, if you find that you need to restore your previous settings, you can delete the new intrface.bbw file that Band-in-a-Box® will have created, and rename intrface.old to intrface.bbw. Note that Band-in-a-Box® 2009 and higher have an easier method of saving your settings, which wouldn't require you to save a copy of your intrface file. You can simply go to the Opt. menu and select Save Preferences As. Later, you can reload those preferences by selecting Opt. | Open Preferences.

An alternative way of restoring all factory defaults, is to simply reinstall Band-in-a-Box® to a new folder. One way of doing this is to rename your current Band-in-a-Box® folder to '\bb_old', then reinstall the program to the default '\bb' folder. Note that reinstalling Band-in-a-Box® to the SAME folder will not return the program to factory settings, because Band-in-a-Box® doesn't change the configuration files when you reinstall it.

intrface.bbw. This file contains most of the global Band-in-a-Box® settings in the Opt. | Preferences dialogs, and a list of the most recently accessed song and style files.

MySetup.DK. This file contains the settings in the following dialogs.:
Opt.| Preferences | Channels (default MIDI channels, patches, volumes, reverb, chorus, bank)
Opt. | Preferences | Patch Map
Opt. | Preferences | Drum Kit
Opt. | Utilities | Make an Advanced Patch Map
Opt. | Preferences | Fav. Patch
The two files above contain most of your program settings; it is USUALLY only necessary to delete those two files to solve most problem. Other settings files include:

DEFAULT.ALI. This file contains the information in the Styles | Style Aliases dialog.

BBToolBar9.INI. This file contains your main toolbar setup.

DXPluginList.ini. This file has the name and location of the DirectX audio plugins that Band-in-a-Box® has found on your computer.

DXiPluginList.ini. This file has the name and location of the DXi synthesizers that Band-in-a-Box® has found on your computer.

VSTiPluginList.ini. This file has the name and location of the VSTi plugins that you have added to your plugin list. This file won't be present unless you have added VSTi plugins.

VSTPluginList.ini. This file has the name and location of the VST audio plugins that you have added to your plugin list.

DX Settings/DefaultDXiSynth.tgs (this is in the 'DX Settings' folder). This file stores the current DXi plugin configuration.

DX Settings/DefaultDXAudio.tgs (this is in the 'DX Settings' folder). This file stores the current DX plugin configuration.

$Drumz.cfg. This file contains your Drum Window settings.

$MIDIMON.cfg. This file contains your MIDI Monitor settings.

Tuner.cfg. This file contains your Guitar Tuner settings.

F32I.BIN. This file stores the song and style Favorites window setups.

SongListTemp4.BIN. You will find this file in any folder that you created a song list for (ie, when you press the [Song] button in Band-in-a-Box®). It contains a description of the song files in that folder.

Default7BBC. [My comment: I wonder what that one does?]

BBW_Sty.LSW. Stores information about the StylePicker list (styles).

BBW_Cat.LSW. Stores information about the StylePicker list (categories).

a_Found.LS3. Stores information about the StylePicker list (other custom and third party styles found in the bb folder).

DrumFolderNames.txt. Stores information about RealDrums you have installed.

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There is also a menu item within Band-in-a-Box® to return many settings to their factory defaults (Opt. | Return to Factory Settings). This will not necessarily return ALL settings to factory like deleting the files listed above will.

An easy way to find the configuration files in the bb folder is by sorting the files by 'date modified'. The configuration files will usually be the most recently modified, so will appear at the top.

Some of the files listed above will not necessarily be present. For example, if you haven't ever used the guitar tuner, you will not find Tuner.cfg in the bb folder.

Last edited by Matt Finley; 12/14/23 07:46 PM. Reason: Changed color of blue text so folks using the Dark Mode can read it!

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"There is also a menu item within Band-in-a-Box® to return many settings to their factory defaults (Opt. | Return to Factory Settings). This will not necessarily return ALL settings to factory like deleting the files listed above will."

So... one might ask a question, what RTFS ALL button does in BIAB? if not that ^

If it (GUI menu) doesn't return ALL the settings, as it states, it should be named something else.... or do exactly what it says, closing out and restarting the program with fresh set of ALL config files.

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Hmmm... that blue font is a bit tricky to read in Dark Mode. I wonder if Andrew can work some magic around this?

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Trevor, I see (actually, can't see) your point. I just edited the post to make all the text black. I suppose we need some tests to see what color(s) do not translate well to the Dark Mode. For example, my address is blue on my screen, and so is my user name, but THAT blue looks bright white on your Dark Mode. It's possibly a color choice made by the individual viewer's browser, since those are links (and I had not even noticed before that my location is a link now).

And Mischa, yes, there seems to be more to this.


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Originally Posted by Matt Finley
Trevor, I see (actually, can't see) your point. I just edited the post to make all the text black. I suppose we need some tests to see what color(s) do not translate well to the Dark Mode...
Matt, I agree. That's why I asked if Andrew could incorporate some magic. Some colors do translate correctly in dark mode.

The FAQ 93 included text in the original response had a font color change to [#000099]. That is what caused the issue. I'm not sure if that came from the cut/paste from the FAQ or if it was manually added to highlight the text?

Maybe the forum software can automatically invert colors when dark mode is used? It obviously does this with black.


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Oh - I see. The embedded font color was preserved regardless of Dark or normal mode. Interesting! Annoying, possibly.


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