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One thought for those looking for more electronic, or other similar genres is hopefully the looping tools get the love they need to be finished and then you can access literally tens of thousands of loop-based music material.
For loop-based stuff I still use "Acid" - outdated in every other aspect, but still great for putting together, combining, and editing loops (of which I already have tons) in no time.

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Originally Posted by musocity
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Looking at a multiple platform version on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS and Android, as well as VST, VST3, AU, AUv3, AAX and LV2 plug-ins rather than in 2040 still seeing a Win version released then 6 months later a Mac version.
Maybe with AI now code will soon be able to be translated easily ?
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Interesting that the OP started this thread talking about a possible multi platform version, and nearly every reply is about different styles and genres. I've recently made the switch to Linux (Ubuntu Studio), and also do a lot on an Android tablet. Different styles and genres are meaningless if I can't even install and run the program.


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all.

haveing been involved in some pretty big systems implementations in the past i would politely suggest its important to understand that even though developers on the
surface have cross platform tools available...the devils in the details for a developer....
one dirty little aspect is everyone wants standards as long as its theirs....lol.

another aspect is maintaining the code for many different platforms/OS's. imho not trivial.

then there is the aspect of a big OS revision whereby developers have to play catch up....its even not trivial sometimes for large teams of coders when this happens.
lots of tearing out of hair and why the hey did they do that.
lots of stress also in keeping a user base happy which is difficult when tech changes as it always does.
one reason i got out of tech was i wanted my life back and less stress.
i hardly saw my family often.

i invite anyone to take a programing course or two...if they feel they can do better.
is any tech company perfect ? like pg ? nope...and at times as a user i have my criticisms etc...but then i step back and remind myself of the various challenges a tech company like pg faces. been there done that.

finally lets remind ourselves any tech company is just a bunch of people trying to do their best under often trying conditions.
its no walk in the park.

haveing said the above...a dream i have now the humble cheap raspberry pi is getting more processing muscle ...is bb and rb running on the pi.lol.


happy new year to all.

om

Last edited by justanoldmuso; 12/30/23 08:58 AM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Amen to all that JOM.

On a plus side for Linux, the people do tend to do a pretty good job getting non-Linux stuff to run OK on Linux, but BIAB doesn't just plug in and go. At present, though, BIAB on Linux is not a painless journey.

IIRC, it took the Reaper guys a few years to get Reaper running natively on Linux, though it ran pretty well for a long time prior to that in Wine on Linux.

FWIW, I use AVLinux, which for a very long time has been probably the best AV-oriented Linux out there. Whether it's still "the best" I know not. UbuntuStudio has been around a few years, so may have leapfrogged.


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Originally Posted by musocity
The main issue with BIAB and BIAB VST was it needs Windows Media Player to decompress the wma files and play the wma demos, if you are using wav files BIAB will generate and play ok.
This may work on Linux even if BIAB can't play the wma it should generate up the track data and freeze the tracks then save to SGU then use the Reaper Lua script to open in Reaper though you still may need to convert wma files to a format for Reaper Linux if it don't support wma like the Win Reaper.
Open SGU in Reaper
You also have Wubuntu (Windows 11 for Linux).

Oldmuso uses this method to get Biab files into Reaper in FLAC format smile
Don't know if Gordon has tried this on Linux yet ?

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Getting back on track rather than music styles, I mentioned JUCE for a crossplatform programming rather than PG having to spend 6 months on Win then 6 months on Mac.
Is there a better crossplatform solution ??
What do you guys see as the best way forward ? just keep doing the same thing for another 10, 20 years ?
Remember when we all wanted 64bit Biab with massive big threads on the subject, and PG said no it's fine with JBridge, BUT, when apple banned 32bit apps Biab instantly became 64bit then RealBand that hardly crashes now it's 64bit smile If the code was in the JUCE BiabVST this would work on Linux rather than calling on a Delphi app in the background.
So do we wait for something to happen to force PG's hand ? should they be working on something now in the background ?

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Originally Posted by musocity
Don't know if Gordon has tried this on Linux yet ?
No, after a new PC with new installs I failed to the BIAB 64 to run and became rather demoralised. I'm sure this is the effect of my CoolLED-induced depression. Sometimes I just get stressed and downhearted and I just walk away. Before their vile treatment of me I used to be pretty much unstoppable. Now I sometimes have panic attacks over trivia. mad cry


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