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This is one I wrote just last week, anhttps://on.soundcloud.com/rqcwpd I think it'll hits home with a lot of Americans!!

Burning Old Glory
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In this land of the brave, where freedom should reign,
there's a fire a burnin', that driving me insane.
They say it's just a symbol, but it means so much more,
it's time to take a stand, let's settle the score.
Chorus:
They're burning old glory, and watching it turn to ash,
for those of you who disrespect, your world's about to crash.
We will rise together, and we won't back down,
Stop burning old glory, we're gonna stand our ground.

Ole Toby said it right, we're all proud to be free,
but some folks think it cool to burn our flag in victory.
They say it's just a protest, a form of free speech,
it's a slap in the face to the ones who fought for each.

They're burning old glory, and watching it turn to ash,
for those of you who disrespect, your world's about to crash.
We will rise together, and we won't back down,
Stop burning old glory, we're gonna stand our ground.

I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America,
and to the republic for which it stands , one nation, under God,
Indivisable, with liberty and justice for all.

They're burning old glory, and watching it turn to ash,
for those of you who disrespect, your world's about to crash.
We will rise together, and we won't back down,
Stop burning old glory, we're gonna stand our ground.

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Ronnie, obviously a heartfelt tune, as your passionate lyrics and vocals clearly show. The tension between patriotism and free speech is very real, as you note.

Your voice track comes through very strong but overpowers the band in your mix. You can settle the vocals back in the mix quite a bit without losing the power of your message.

Thanks for posting!


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Ronnie, great song with a great message.

I agree that you vocal is to far out front, however I would bring up the backing tracks. YMMV
There were a couple of pops in your vocal. You may want to tame them. Some of the words starting with F for example.

This is a really good song that just needs a little polish to may it really shine IMHO.


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Ron...this is really a great track...I agree with DC Ron that the vocal is over powering a powerful band...backing the vocal up with volume and maybe a touch of reverb would put you back into the band space where the vocal could serve as a member...I don't think you would lose any of the power and effect you're looking for...as for the subject matter...I agree that burning the flag that brave men have died to raise on bloody hills in mortal battle is not a proper form of free speech...if you hate this nation that much (and you're a citizen) then speak out as loudly as you want...peacefully assemble together and say what you want but when you begin to destroy other people's property and dishonor the men and women who have died to give you that right then you've stepped across a line...if your not a citizen of this land (the USA) then those rights don't apply to you at all...so go on back to your own lands and see how free speech works a out for you...Ronnie, you got me all stirred up...anyway...I liked the song!

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Hi Ronnie,

Excellent song!

Strong write, and strong vocal. I also liked the band you have assembled, very powerful, fits the song.

Yes, the vocal is a little hot in spots but that's an easy fix. It didn't take away from my enjoyment of the song.

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Hey Ronnie,

This sounds great!

I am with you brother!!

Good one!

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Man, this was an enjoyable listen and a great message.

I guess I'd agree with folks above regarding pushing your vocal back in the mix a notch or 2.
Getting a mix right is tough business as I am finding in my own songs.
Great job.


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Great song Ronnie. A little outside your usual style as I recall, and though the production could use a little work as others have mentioned, it came out well - congratulations. As for me and my family, we're some of those who will, and have, rose with you, not backed down and stood our ground. Thanks for writing our story!

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You delivered your sentiment well with the write and vocals (could do with some gain reduction).
Patriotism and free speech have indeed always danced cautiously around each other.
A delicate balance indeed but one that should be respected with zero threats of retribution.

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Hi Ronnie,

I agree with the previous comments about the vocal being a bit too much out front. I's leave the vocal as is, and bring the backing tracks more forward in the mix. I encourage free speech and the right for disagreement, should you truly disagree. But preaching, and definitely committing, violence and threats of harm is outside those rights. I'm a disabled Vietnam vet (got shot and hand grenade fragmentation to the face). We fought, in one way or another, for people to have freedom and rights - but not to abuse them. I'll leave it at that.

I agree with your message and think you crafted a fine song. I always enjoy your music!

Take care,

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So well written, Ronnie. You've written the perfect melody to accompany those terrific lyrics. Well said, sir. I like that the vocal is out front. You sing it so well and the message is the important thing. I got rushes.


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Ronnie, very well written and well sung. I agree with the comments regarding bringing the band up louder. Good work here for sure, Tom

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Hi, Ronnie.

Nicely done. I agree with the other commenters - the vocal is out of balance with the song.

That said, I guess I'll be one the of few voices of dissent here.

The phrase "stand our ground" means using deadly force to protect oneself from a violent crime.

That is, Burn the American flag, and I will kill you.

This threat of violence against free speech is not protected speech.

It's the opposite of standing for freedom. And it's wrong.


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David, didn't mean to insinuate violence, maybe I should reword it!!

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Hi, Ronnie.
Originally Posted by Ronnie Fields
David, didn't mean to insinuate violence, maybe I should reword it!!

Glad to hear it! smile

You have every right to express distaste at flag burning. Even Justice Scalia did exactly that when he explained why he cast the deciding vote in the Johnson case:

Originally Posted by "Justice Scalia"
If it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag. But I am not king.

But since the SCOTUS has declared flag burning a protected First Amendment right, there are only two legal means to take action - re-litigate the issue to the SCOTUS, or amend the Constitution. Anything else is a call to extra-judicial action.

Obviously, lawless rioters in the street are a different case - but that's not what your song appears to be about.

The following phrases could support the idea of peacefully taking action to protect the flag through legal process, depending on context:

   it's time to take a stand
   We will rise together
   we won't back down


But you also use "fighting words", which create a different context:

   let's settle the score
   your world's about to crash
   we're gonna stand our ground


It's not my place to tell you how to write a song. I'm only pointing out the language serves as a call to violent action.

Changing the "fighting words" is a remediation, but I think it still leaves open the question: what are you calling the listener to do.

Saying something like We need to amend Constitution to enshrine the flag and honor those who fought for it and what it represents would remove any ambiguity of your message.

Again, I'm not trying to tell you how to write the song, or what you should say. I'm only saying that it's not communicating what you intended.

Thanks for listening, I appreciate it! laugh


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