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B.D.Thomas #798715 02/06/24 12:37 AM
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Hi, Brian.
Originally Posted by B.D.Thomas
Wonderful song, great instrument choices (the sax at the end is PERFECT) and the production really did a great job of putting everything together in a very natural sounding way.
Thanks, I'm glad everything came together. smile

I was a bit worried about Saros overpowering Feng Yi, but he's vocal is passionate, I didn't want to push it too far into the background.

I appreciate you stopping by to comment.


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Hi, Ron.
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Originally Posted by DC Ron
David, well, everything I was going to say has been said several times.
I know that feeling. I'll usually just say "What they said" wink

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This is an amazing tune for sure. From your description, it sounds like a labor of love, and a lot of work, too. That being said, it all sounds simple and simply effortless. Thanks for posting!
And thank you for listening and commenting.

I'm glad the vocals worked. As you know, once you listen to a song a zillion times, it's a bit hard to be objective about it.

So it's good to hear it worked out. smile


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Hi, Marty.
Originally Posted by BabuMusic
What a wonderful sound you created, David. Outstanding arrangement and there is so much goodness in there --which makes it so much more difficult to mix. Last minute choice of cello was the perfect icing. You've really masterd those vocals and gave them such good lyrics to sing. This whole package is a A+++++. Love it!!!
Thanks for the kind words... Your check is in the mail!

These synthetic vocalists are getting better and better, which makes the more fun to work with. And it's fun to discover what they're capable of. And like any other instrument, you've got to let them sound like what they are... Saros really wants to be the lead vocalist on every song. wink

Fortunately, there's no ego when working with synthetic vocalists!


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laurent4114 #798718 02/06/24 12:45 AM
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Hi, Laurent.
Originally Posted by laurent4114
It's a beautiful song and the vocal work is excellent. You and your singers are champions.
Thanks! smile

I appreciate you listening and commenting.


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Hi, Vic.
Originally Posted by vicarn
Wonderful work, David.
The lyrics and voices are great and the sax is a good addition.
Thanks!

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A bridge is just to create contrast to what comes before and after but I expect you already know that.
I use usually it if I need to separate two similar parts, i.e. the last two choruses.
I'm not sure you need it here as the last chorus is lyrically different but it may work better if you silence one or two of the instruments in it to create variance.
You're absolutely right.

In my defense, I did lower the energy level of the bridge, but it could have more contrast.

When I'd finished the first draft of the lyrics (but before working out the second verse), I realized I basically had two different choruses. What I probably should have done was rewrite the lyrics into the second verse, But... I liked it, even if it didn't fit in. So I stuck it on the end anyway. wink

But yes - it's not the best structural solution.

I appreciate your feedback and careful listening! laugh


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floyd jane #798721 02/06/24 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by floyd jane
STUNNING.
Thanks! You can stop there. laugh

(But don't wink ).

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Gorgeous piano. Delicately played.
(you made me wish I had picked up that AK piano, too)
Thanks - I appreciate you noticing the piano part. I can't play "fancy", but I can comp under a singer.

When I got the AK piano, I wondered why I'd waited so long, because it's often on sale for $50. It's not the most amazing piano, but it plays well and fits nicely in the mix - which I can't always say for other "character" pianos I've picked up.

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The vocals are exquisite. These guys/gals sing with Emotion. Almost scary real.
It really is astonishing what they can do.

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Your arrangement is a delight. Strings are subtle - beautiful. So Many nice touches. A LOT of work in this production, Well Done.
Good that you could not find a guitar to use - because that sax was the perfect ending...
Thanks for that as well. Finally, all those years of listening to the Alan Parsons Project pay off!

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This is one of the best productions ever posted here.
Thanks! That made my day. laugh


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Hi, Jannesan.

Originally Posted by jannesan
A classic ballad I would expect to hear on a real stage, not on this forum, so I would call it too good
Ha! Honestly, I can't think of any venue other than here where people want to hear my music. wink

Soros is a lot of fun to use, but in this song, he sort of feels like a theatre kid who's been relegated to a background part, but is working his best to steal the show in spite of that.

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Beautiful lyrics, the first verse is especially good introduction to the story. The bridge works very well and the ending "When you find me in your heart, you'll be home" is touching and just like from my guidebook: leave the best part for last
Thanks! I mentioned in a prior post that from a technical POV I should have left it off... But emotionally, it resonated with me.

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You have stepped from J-Pop straight to contemporary adult, and so the vocalist selection is reflecting that. First I thought that the female was Sheena, I didn't realize there existed even better alternative. And Saros is excellent choice to support Feng Yi's beautiful and soft voice, excellent work to make them sound great together.
I was really surprised at Feng Yi's voice. I spent a lot of time listening to the demos, and narrowed the choices to Feng Yi and Cong Zheng. I choice Feng Yi because Cong Zheng sounds a lot like voices I've already got.

Then I heard a demo someone posted of Sheena, and despite all her flaws, she just might be the next voice I get. But I knew I wasn't going to get any voices before I finished a song with Feng Yi.

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Strings and sax are especially nicely handled, fading with the sax is a bit cliche, but it works everytime for me.
Yes, "it works" is the best reason for it being a cliche.. smile

I was also worried this song would be a bit too close to another song I'd done (it ends with a trumpet on the fade), so that's the other motivation I had for finding an alternate solution.

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You have written a masterpiece where even tiny details are perfectly and skillfully positioned. You seem to have purchased everything possible, but in this case it sounds like it paid off smile
Oh, trust me... I haven't purchased everything possible... But I'm working on it. wink

Thanks for listening and your much too kind compliments. laugh


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Hi,Sören.
Originally Posted by Sören Ahlbäck
Sounds good!
Thanks - I'm glad you enjoyed it! smile


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Hi, Tom.
Originally Posted by tommyad
David, your production chops and writing skills are on full display here. The way you work with these voices is nothing short of remarkable. I'm sure you put in a ton of time on this and it shows. I believe this is the best I've heard from you. This is tremendous in all aspects!
Thanks!

I won't say the only reason for writing music is to be able to use all these lovely instruments.

But it is part of the motivation!

I appreciate your nice comments! smile


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David...this is gorgeous! melodically...beautiful! lyrically...soothing! harmonically...exquisite! the arrangement...tasteful! the production...top-tier!


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David, you have mastered the vocal synths, sounds so real!
Your arrangement skills are second to none.
You know how to manipulate those RTs into the perfect backing band and mix.
Loved it.


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Really, really good stuff David. Your talent really shines in this one!

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Wow David!! I you hadn't mentioned the vocal part of it I would've bought it with no problem. Amazing sound and production.

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An EPIC ballad David!!! You nailed everything!!! I'm going to have to check out the vocal synth. Take care. Greg

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Hi David,

Well, what an amazing song you made! And quite different with that beautiful sax at the end.
Wonderful how these AI vocals work together. That must have been a lot of work to get them sing like this.
I join all compliments given to you here. You made a very good sounding song!

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Hi David
Don't be angry
But what should I write about this song ???
PERFECT !!!
Outstanding work
Many greetings
Andi ;-)

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This an awesome song David. First of all the lyric and backtrack gave this a very inspirational feel to it. Now the vocals and harmonies were perfect. James hit the nail on the head. Is best to listen to the song first then read the incredible amount of work you put into the song. Sax was a nice touch on the outro. Well done..


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David

A big epic sounding ballad beautifully programmed and written.
Extremely well done.

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Hi David,

I can't begin to imagine the effort required rto put this together - mind boggling! I think you're aware of the Neanderthal method I use - not complicated at all. So, I stand (actually sit) here in total amazement.

The synth voices soubnd so real. The timbre and intonation in their vocals lend to a human quality. And that can be revealed only by the talent and precision of the input agent (of course, that would be you).

Beautiful lyric and mesmerizing melody. The sound is delicate and fragile. Congrats on such a fine production!

Alan


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A lovely thing. I expect a "real" voice may have been even better but you've managed the tools at hand wonderfully well.
TOP shelf.


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