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This song was originally done in 2017. Robert and I thought it was a good candidate for an overhaul. Vocals, Guitars and backtrack were retooled which I think gave the song a different feel as well as a very cool video Lets take a trip back to 1969 If Then Was Now - Video If Then Was Now - Original Robert Cordrey, lyrics, vocals, video production Scott Collingwood, lead guitar and fills, soundtrack production Band in a Box, Leonardo.ai, Kyber.ai Mixed and Mastered in Studio One 6 More Spirit Level can be heard at ://soundcloud.com/spiritlevel.ca The Band File:If Now Was Then remix.SGU Key=D , Tempo 102, Length (m:s)=3:52 No intro. 96 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 96. Repeat x1 chorus No Melody No Soloist track. Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0, Song is saved with bar changes for Time signature, Styles, Style is _PBALCEL.STY (Pop Ballad w/ Cello & Guitars) RealTracks in style: ~~683:Bass, Electric, PopHalfNotesPush Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 1856:Cello, Background PopCountry Ev 085 RealTracks in style: 838:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopBalladClean Ev 085 RealTracks in style: ~703:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Spirited Ev 085 RealDrums in style:NashvilleEven16^5-a:Snare, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride ******************* If Now Was Then a high wire between oceans holding on at both ends must have been a beautiful failure I didn`t see you fall my friend you said starlight`s a memory looking at me from the inside out your arm around Oleander hunter`s moon split the clouds you sang that song you were writing called If Now Was Then I kept your insect in amber with a question in its eye the riddle of the gypsy girl how to live and how to fly did you burn up on reentry Oleander found the ashes of your crown in the final moments the hourglass turns upside down did you finish that song you were writing every word was zen did you finish that song you were writing called If Now Was Then I kept your insect in amber with a question in its eye the riddle of the gypsy girl how to live and how to fly © Robert Cordrey Dec.2017
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Scott and Robert!
You guys are a great duo! Roberts delivered a great vocal to accommodate the excellent lyrics! Scott, that is some of your finest guitar work....sounds great!
You guys keep rockin', TB
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Scott / Robert
Excellent work all round, all the parts work, lovely sounding guitar, very nice video and Roberts signature vocals.
Good stuff.
Peter
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Scott and Robert,
Very great music and video!
It is impressive that the simple melody is repeated over and over again.
Scott's guitar phrases are also especially wonderful this time.
The videos are also a fusion of Eastern, Western, ancient, modern, and futuristic elements, and I am drawn to the screen.
Enjoyed my listen and watch a lot.
Best regards.
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Scott, great job again by you and Robert! You definitely have a signature sound that is your own and fun to listen to. Especially liked your guitar on this one, and that there was a lot of it. The last few bars of guitar at the outro were icing on the cake. Nice!
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Scott / Robert,
Wow! Great song, great video and great performances by you both. You guys are creating some really fine music.
Loved it!
Bob
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Hi Robert and Scott,
An amazing song!
Very nice different vocals and that lead guitar shines, Scott!
Loved the lyrics.
I wanted to quote that last part here, because it was so sweet (in a way).
Then I realized you wrote them so don't need that quote...
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Hi Scott and Robert
A great song
Excellent vocal work
Great song structure
Your solo really is absolutely incredible good
Great sound
Outstanding work
Many greetings
Andi ;-)
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Hey, This sounds really great and is totally my cuppa tea fellows! Great job. For whatever is worth, there is no time change for me here. This is how I live and dress today. Though on some days of the week my wife and I pretend it is 1954. And sometimes it is 1888. Anything but 2024. No. Not interested in modern culture at all. No thanks. 
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Scott and Robert, you produce some of the best music on the planet.
Great guitar leads and vocal.
The perfect backing tracks.
The mix is spot on.
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Scott and Robert!
You guys are a great duo! Roberts delivered a great vocal to accommodate the excellent lyrics! Scott, that is some of your finest guitar work....sounds great!
You guys keep rockin', TB Thanks Torrey. Really glad you liked the song. Scott / Robert
Excellent work all round, all the parts work, lovely sounding guitar, very nice video and Roberts signature vocals.
Good stuff.
Peter Thanks Peter. Really good to hear from you. Hope you are having a great summer. Glad you liked the song. Scott and Robert,
Very great music and video!
It is impressive that the simple melody is repeated over and over again.
Scott's guitar phrases are also especially wonderful this time.
The videos are also a fusion of Eastern, Western, ancient, modern, and futuristic elements, and I am drawn to the screen.
Enjoyed my listen and watch a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi Thanks Shigeki for checking out the song. Robert will be especially you liked the infusion of the eastern influences. They especially dear to him. Glad you liked the song.
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The riff, fills & licks, along with the solo, really lift this and give it an ominous feel.
Cool.
Cheers
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Hi Scott and Robert. A glimpse of the dark and mysterious.
Very well performed. Very interesting lyrics.
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Hi, Scott and Robert. I listened to both. Since the vocals are so much more clear on the first mix, I call that a huge win there. Plus, the video on the first is more interesting than on the second.  Much wider stereo field, nice separation between instruments (especially the bass). I'm still clueless what the lyrics are about, but that's par for the course with Robert's lyrics. Some songs are meant to be felt, not understood. Good job with retooling it! 
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Very cool retro tune guys!!! Love the video too......would have been even better after a few dummies . Maybe next time! Really enjoyed this!!! Take care. Greg
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Scott and Robert, this is another good one from you has the dark mysterious vibe that are central to many of your songs. Good vocal, connect the dots lyrics and some really tasteful guitar work. Enjoyed,Tom
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I like the mystical mood you create with the instrumentation and the unusual vocal performance.
Cool stuff.
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Gave this a listen when you first posted on YT, and good to hear it again now.
Excellent song, cool video.
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The video and music are fascinating. Gorgeous.
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Good work from you both.
Spirit Level is doing excellent music.
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