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《I Dont Think That I Like Her Charlie Puth》

This song is very nice. The opening chords confuse me. Because I saw several ways to write it on YouTube.
Let me play this song in the key of C major.

His chord progression is C-E7/B-Am-Gm-C7-F

about "E7/B", I see 2 other chords.
These are G#dim/B and Bdim7

so, E7/B = G#dim/B = Bdim7 ? ?

In fact, I often use E7/G# in front of Am
This is the first time I've seen E7/B


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Hi SBM.

I know that you are on the road to learning music and music theory. I don't know if you've ever come across the information below. If you have just ignore it. If you haven't, maybe it will give come more insight into music for you.

One of the ways that diminished chords work is that they can be considered to be a 7th chord without the root note.

E7 = E G# B D

If the root note (E) is removed, the chord becomes G# B D = G#dim (a diminished triad).

Bdim7 = B D F Ab (where Ab is just another way of writing G#). Because the distance between each note in a dim7 chord is 3 semitones, there are really only three dim7th chords. They're just notated differently.

What I mean is...

Bdim7 = B (up 3 semitones) D (up 3 st) F (up 3 st) Ab (up 3 st) B (I'm back to the root note)
This chord is the same notes as E7b9 (E G# (or Ab) B D F) without the root. In the key of C major, E7b9 will often sound better because the key has F in rather than the F3 that's found in E9.

So Ddim7 = D (up 3 st) F (up 3 st) Ab (up 3 st) B (up 3 st) D
These are exactly the same notes as Bdim7. It's just the root note that is different.

The bottom line is that in a diminished 7th chord, the dim7 of each note in the chord contains the same notes.

So...
Bdim7 = Ddim7 = Fdim7 = Abdim7
Cdim7 = Ebdim7 = Gbdim7 = Adim7
C#dim7 = Edim7 = Gdim7 = Bbdim7

Therefore E7/B, G#dim/B, Bdim7 (and also Ddim7, Fdim7, Abdim7 since they are enharmonic equivalents of Bdim7) are all good chords that can be interchanged with one another to create a slightly different musical texture while preserving the harmonic movement.

I hope this helps with understanding why different people have arranged it in different ways.
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I only know E = mc²

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Originally Posted by Noel96
Hi SBM.

I know that you are on the road to learning music and music theory. I don't know if you've ever come across the information below. If you have just ignore it. If you haven't, maybe it will give come more insight into music for you......

All the replies are great

This helps me a lot. Thank you so much.


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I only remember this one from school.

Johnny was a chemist, Johnny is no more. What he thought was H2O was H2SO4


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Originally Posted by Joseph Land
I only remember this one from school.

Johnny was a chemist, Johnny is no more. What he thought was H2O was H2SO4
I shouldn't be entertaining this, but, that's funny grin (except for Johnny)


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Okay, so maybe I'm missing something. Why can't I type in a Dim 7 chord into the Chord sheet? I have a song with multiple diminished sevenths (Tea for Two) and whenever I type in, for example EbDim7, BDim7 or CDim7, it skips the 7 part, just deletes it.

Uh, well, that's interesting. I opened up the Options/Display Options and there's a check box there that says 'Treat 'dim' chord as a diminished triad (Cdim5) instead of Cdim7' and I clicked on that and all of my '7's' came back. Is that a bug?


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Originally Posted by Gary Curran
Okay, so maybe I'm missing something. Why can't I type in a Dim 7 chord into the Chord sheet? I have a song with multiple diminished sevenths (Tea for Two) and whenever I type in, for example EbDim7, BDim7 or CDim7, it skips the 7 part, just deletes it.

Uh, well, that's interesting. I opened up the Options/Display Options and there's a check box there that says 'Treat 'dim' chord as a diminished triad (Cdim5) instead of Cdim7' and I clicked on that and all of my '7's' came back. Is that a bug?
I think it's intentional. BIAB treats certain chords as 7th's automatically.


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Maybe it's intentional, but since I can do both a Diminished chord and a Diminished Seventh, why would you automatically make one the other? Not to mention it showing up when I checked that one box in the Display Options dialog?

I don't know.


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