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Hello,
I'm having a little difficulty with the metronome.
Sorry if you've already answered this elsewhere, I browsed the forums and found many useful posts regarding the metronome, but non seem to solve my problem.

The metronome is fine when recording from the beginning of the song, but I'm trying to re-record a section I messed up on earlier.
The problem I have is that when recording from a bar anywhere other than the beginning, there is no metronome present. The recording starts straight away with no count-in, which makes things rather difficult.

Is there a way to have the metronome play before any bar?

Any help would be much appreciated, thank you

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Windows 10\ Biab 2022, build 927

i'm not sure about recording in BIAB but in RB it's dead easy. you select 'punch in' for the area you want to rerecord, then wind back and then monitor the recording. when you get to the bit you want to rerecord, the mic becomes 'live' RB records over the top of the old recording and then reverts to simple playback after the record option has 'punched in'. no need for a count in as you hear the track and just sing (or play) when you get to the bit to replace.

i don't know if you can 'punch in' on BIAB

I don't have Real Band, but yes, you're correct Biab does have a Punch-in option.
Thank's, I'll give it a go

In the Punch-In Record box, there are 4 boxes.
Am I right in thinking these boxes are for Chorus, Bar, and Beat, ??, but what is the fourth box for, any ideas?

It's ok, I found out the fourth box is for 'Tick'
Thanks again👍

You've asked this in the Beginners Forum and have been a registered user for about six months, so I agree Bob has given the preferred answer for your problem. Bob's not sure about recording in BIAB, but I am. You can record in BIAB. You can 'punch in' in BIAB. You can overdub in BIAB.

However, there are obstacles to recording audio in BIAB that as a beginner or previous DAW user you'll face:

* You can't 'see' the audio. There's no WAV form until the recording stops. There are VU meters showing recording and the recording levels.
* Punch in or overdub, the song begins at the start and plays through the punch in or overdub section with no visual indication the program is recording.
* Overdubs are 'mixed' automatically by BIAB.
* Some users find it difficult to set up BIAB for audio or midi recording.

<< The problem I have is that when recording from a bar anywhere other than the beginning, there is no metronome present. The recording starts straight away with no count-in, which makes things rather difficult.

Is there a way to have the metronome play before any bar? >>

There are multiple ways to have the metronome play before any bar in BIAB. If your song has drums on the Drums Track, that should keep you in time. My preference is to Solo the instrument being punched in, and also solo the drums or metronome.

It's easy to make a click track for your song.
Save your current project. Be sure any edited tracks are frozen.
Open a New project
From the StylePicker, search and select one of the Utility Style Metronome Styles.
Set the tempo of the metronome to match your project song tempo
Render the Metronome Click Track and save as an audio file to your desktop
Close the Metronome project
Open your current project
Import the click track you saved onto an empty Mixer Track using the default load options including the Chorus, Bar, Beat, Ticks box 1,-1,1,1
To test if the click is synced, I solo the bass and click and then add the drums a few bars in. (Right clicking the Solo Button in the Mixer to have multiple tracks solo'd)


That said, the above advice is best only for beginners and DAW enthusiasts. Understand this advice is an absolute obstacle to learning and using almost all of BIAB's advance features in creating complex, advanced audio and midi tracks that can match any arrangement one can create manually in a DAW using basic BIAB generated Tracks.

Audition the Songs with Vocals demos and note they are all finalized as BIAB songs, Never as a RealBand SEQ file, not Pro-tools, Studio One, Reaper, Sonar, Ableton, Logic Pro, GarageBand, Cakewalk or any DAW. When BIAB files are exported as audio, 100% of BIAB features are lost. RealBand and the DAW Plug-in have limited BIAB features but most of the advanced features don't carry over. Every other DAW contains ZERO BIAB features.

Windows versions of BIAB have RealBand included. Certainly you 2022 version does. You may have skipped installing it. You can go to the Install page to download and install if you bypassed it in the initial install.

When he posted that I assumed he had the Mac version.
So dRoNe13 what version do you have? Mac or Windows?

Good morning Mario. His initial post lists "Windows 10\ Biab 2022, build 927"

Good morning Charlie,

You are right. I totally missed that. Sometimes I am blind as a bat.
Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused.
Thanx for setting me straight!

Thanks, Charlie.
You've provided a plethora of information for me to get my teeth into

I asked the question in the beginner's forum because I assumed it was a beginner's question. I may have been a registered user for over 6 months but because of work, etc I don't get to use Biab as much as I'd like to, I'm lucky to get a few hours a week on it.

Normally, I would use Cubase for recording, I still do, I'm just very interested in learning all I can about Band in a Box because it fascinates me, there's nothing else out there quite like it. It really is the perfect accompaniment, in my opinion.

Thanks again
.

You're right, I do have 'Real Band'. and hadn't even installed it, I thought it was a demo or something, I'll be checking that out, I keep hearing good things about it.

I also like the sound of Biab 2024, I was thinking of buying it with all the packs but decided it was a bad idea since I've only just scratched the surface with 2022 and by the time I've saved the money for it, 2025 will probably be out.

I'll be installing RB tonight, thanks for pointing that out, Happy days😉

Glad you found RealBand. It's a very good program especially if you're not already deep into another DAW. If you are comfortable using Cubase, then make sure you've also installed the BIAB- Plug in program.
It will help the workflow between BIAB and Cubase as a VST.

Mario, no inconvenience at all. Missing things is the world I live in today....

This DAW plugin sounds fantastic, thanks again, Charlie. Time for more tutorials👍

My wife, Tracy, is over the moon, she's been using Biab for nearly 3 years and didn't know about the VST plugin. When she first purchased Biab, I was never into it (well, until I heard the quality of the RealTracks, then I was impressed) Tracy always loved Biab and Nuendo, and now she can use them together. She sends her kind regards.

Tell Tracy she's welcome. The Plug-in is a very popular addition to BIAB. Also check out the User Showcase where users publish their songs and many times explain the processes they use to construct the projects. I learned quite a bit about BIAB, arrangement and production reading the comments there.