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Drum Stems in VST plugin [Resolved] #805792 03/30/24 02:53 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret OP Journeyman
OP Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands	Hi, I've added a RealDrums style which includes 7 drum stems onto a utility track. They show up as individual tracks in the VST plugin. I render the tracks and transfer the tracks into my DAW so I can mix the levels. Each track unfortunately is playing the full kit not the individual stems. Is this a bug? Brian Cadoret BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin Brian Cadoret #806105 04/02/24 02:31 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Adar - PG Music PG Music Staff A Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 1,368	Hi Brian, Each stem is not completely isolated so you may hear the other drums slightly coming through. However, if you are hearing identical tracks of all stems at full volume then that is indeed a bug. Could you provide a few more details like which RealDrums you are using and the style that you are generating? It would be great if you could provide exact steps for me to follow to reproduce this problem. Thank you! Adar

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin Brian Cadoret #806128 04/03/24 01:23 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,094 Melbourne, Australia	What is the name of the RealDrums Style that you are using? BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin AudioTrack #806180 04/03/24 01:02 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret OP Journeyman
OP Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands	Sorry I'm away from my recording computer for a few days, will get back. Brian Brian Cadoret BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin Brian Cadoret #806245 04/04/24 04:49 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret OP Journeyman
OP Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands	Hi, I open the BBPlugin in my DAW and add a RealDrum ( TrainBeat) onto a utility track Render the wav's in the plugin and then drag the wav's from the utilty tracks to the DAW. Each track in the DAW is playing the full mix. I've tried three different RD's and get the same outcome each time. Thanks Brian Last edited by Brian Cadoret; 04/04/24 05:17 AM. Brian Cadoret BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin RESOLVED Brian Cadoret #806249 04/04/24 05:14 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,094 Melbourne, Australia	All good then. Thanks for the feedback that it's now working. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin AudioTrack #806253 04/04/24 05:16 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret OP Journeyman
OP Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands	Sorry audiotrack you beat me to the post before I could change it. I have tested again and found the issue in my previous post. Brian Brian Cadoret BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin Brian Cadoret #806372 04/05/24 01:46 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret OP Journeyman
OP Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands	Hi Adar, I opened the BBPlugin in my DAW and added the stems RealDrums (TrainBeat for instance) onto a Utility Track. I render the utility track wav's in the plugin and then drag the separate wav's from the utilty tracks to the DAW. Each track in the DAW is playing the full mix of the drums I've tried three different RD's and get the same outcome each time. Thanks Brian Brian Cadoret BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin Brian Cadoret #806377 04/05/24 04:36 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,110 M musocity Veteran
musocity Veteran M Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,110	This is what I get when using direct play of source files using Instructions or rendered wavs:

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin musocity #806383 04/05/24 05:50 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,647	Moulpass/ALL. MP. a question...the waveforms i'm seeing in your graphic ie resulting from micro info... where is this data stored ? in the users designated song folder ?. for example before i start a song i set up a win folder where all song tracks/info from the daw and bb and rb etc etc go so i dont have to search in other pc locations. thanks. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 04/05/24 05:52 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin MoultiPass #806391 04/05/24 07:09 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,647	MP. many thanks. much appreciated. om 🇨🇦 🇬🇧 my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin justanoldmuso #806436 04/05/24 12:44 PM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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musocity Veteran M Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,110	In the pic below the top track is the new way to generate tracks in Reaper using the "Send" wav instruction, you see the source in the RealDrums folder, so no wavs are created, it will just load the sections from the RealDrums folder each time you load the project. The second track has been rendered to a new wav file stored in C:\bb\BBPlugin\SavedTracks that can be moved to your Reaper project folder. The first way on the top track is the best way as you will never loose the files and they are always in \bb\Drums and \bb\RealTracks, no wav files are created to fill up the hard drive or get lost.

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin Brian Cadoret #806701 04/08/24 12:52 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret OP Journeyman
OP Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands	Hi Adar, Update to this bug. I've opened the standalone BBPlugin and added various RealDrum stems onto a Utility Track. I render the utility track wav's in the plugin and then play, all tracks in the standalone plugin play the full mix rather than individual stems. The same happens when I drag the separate wav's from the utilty tracks to the DAW. Each track in the DAW is playing the full mix of the drums. Thanks Brian Brian Cadoret BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin Brian Cadoret #806706 04/08/24 02:11 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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musocity Veteran M Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,110	Originally Posted by Brian Cadoret ..The same happens when I drag the separate wav's from the utilty tracks to the DAW. Each track in the DAW is playing the full mix of the drums. Can you upload a pic of the tracks in the DAW ?

Re: Drum Stems in VST plugin RESOLVED Brian Cadoret #806934 04/10/24 07:42 AM Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands Brian Cadoret OP Journeyman
OP Brian Cadoret Journeyman Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 444 Jersey Channel Islands	Hi, So it seems that the Style has also got be be generated the same time as the Utility drum stems tracks for the stem tracks to render correctly. I was just opening a new instance of the BBPlugin going straight to the Utility section, adding drum stems and generating only the Utiility tracks. All good now thanks. Brian Cadoret BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB

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