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#806466 04/05/24 04:58 PM
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I don't know if this has been suggested but I'd love to have it.
Similar to Suno AI where you add the lyrics and it creates a track.
Of course in BIAB it already knows the style you should
only have to choose the singer and BIAB would insert the track
Maybe each line of the lyrics would generate separate so you could
position it where it needs to go.

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I don't know if this built in one is any better these days:


Generate Synthetic Vocal - Sinsy

You can hear Band-in-a-Box singing, with built-in support for the popular online vocal synth "Sinsy."

To access this feature, you should first enter melodies and lyrics to the Melody or Soloist track. If no lyrics are present, you can still generate a vocal synth using the syllable of your choice (e.g. la la la).

You can launch the Vocal Synth generation by one of the followings.

- Press the [Vocal Synth] button on the Notation window toolbar and select either of the Vocal Synth (auto or manual) menu items.

- Press the [Big Lyrics] tool bar button, and select either of the Vocal Synth (auto or manual) menu items.

- Go to menu Edit - Lyrics - Vocal Synth.

With the manual mode, Band-in-a-Box creates a Sound.XML file, which you need to upload to the Sinsy server. When the Sinsy has generated an audio file with a vocal synth, import it to Band-in-a-Box.
https://www-sinsy-jp

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im a vocallist and would love to be able gen back up vocs for my songs...which i normally have to fudge myself.
femmes are difficult without squeezing a certain part of my anatomy. but i think it would lovely to be included in bb ie voc synth plugin vst etc....and not have to go on the net as its a problem for us whose pc's never see the net. what i would suggest is in the same way pg was good enough to offer the built in synthmaster...we need the same built in for back up vocs male and female.

lets call it 'vocalmaster'. i would be all over that if built into bb as ive been following the talented dcuny and other pg users in the showcase viz synth vocals....very impressive.

btw ive been looking into the juce developer tools.
what a game changer for devs of music apps.
gonna look into more based on my years in tech.
maybe i'll make a backup singer plugin...!o!.
only trouble is i was a lousy coder so i became a system architect and project mgr in a previous life. lmao.
my life was very surreal...tech work in the day then like a bat at night flying around singing in bands and then weekends church.
seriously i wish someone would build a bb plug in for backup vocs. oooh...maybe useing juce so its cross platform.

my dream is one day bb on a pi like some other music apps.
cripes pi pc is so cheap pg could offer a pi preloaded with pg starter software with say a thousand styles/rt's/rd's/midi supers etc etc for say a upak basic price. very yummy.
(sorry my tech marketing previous life once...lol)
seriously the juce looks very very interesting cos of the
possibility of music apps useing rad tech approaches.
but i would LOVE in bb to have a backup singers plugin.
we could call it 'girls rule boys drrool' lol.

now i feel like some carrot juce as my eye docs tell me its good for my new eyesight. lol.
seriously juce looks very very groovy for developing music apps.
gonna delve into it much more.

happiness.

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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 04/05/24 07:28 PM.

my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..)
https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs
(90 songs created useing bb/rb)
(lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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I started using Replay.io .It does a pretty good job. Keep your music arrangement kind of simple
and sing without any reverb,delay or even pitch correction. Then load into replay and choose a voice
to render out. It's 100% free.
You could also look into an Digitech Vocalist 4 or 5. They have decent feminine vocals.
I used to have one but traded it off long ago. Search on Reverb or GuitarCenter for a used one.
Only get the 4 or 5 cuz I can't vouch so much for their other models being as good.

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I tried to figure this out but since I've never used the lyrics function I don't see how to enter lyics to send to sinsy
I hit the button and it did connect to sinsy and BIAB informed me that the result was added on my audio
track but the audio track was empty. Not sure how to to get this to work.
I'm typing in lyrics to the melody track but when I go to send to sinsy
it always says song contains no lyrics. Must be a bug in 2023 version because
every tutorial I've watched it works that easy but mine just says La La La only..no lyics.

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Note-Based Lyrics
Note-based lyrics offer accurate placement of lyrics by placing a word under each note.

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Tried that too but when I went to notes the lyrics I'd previously
placed still appeared above the measure and I couldn't find
a way to enter them by hand under the notes.
I need entering lyrics in Band in a Box for Dummies. smile

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I though there was a PG video on the Synthetic vocal Sinsy but could not see it.
Here are 2 ways to enter lyrics, you need the note based:


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Thank you. I was looking at that last night
and was able to get things working with the note based.
Still don't understand why entering on the bar doesn't take.
Probably doesn't matter so long as I can use note based.

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Yes, we plan on adding support for the vocal synths. By that I mean when you make a midi melody inside BiaB, it should be easier to:
- add lyrics
- prepare the midi melody for singing (legato the notes so no short spaces between them, only breathing spaces)
- make sure the midi harmonies transfer well by midi file.
- vocal WAV file can be dragged back from the vocal synth (or okay directly if using the plugin)


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