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Hi, For some reason the RealTracks Picker options are missing in the BBPlugin and Standalone build 6.1.4 I open up a new instance of the BBPlugin, look for a particular RealTrack in the picker area, but the options are missing. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the plugin to the latest version, also installed recent earlier versions but no luck. I've attached a couple of pics, the first one being the BIAB main program the other being the BBPlugin and standalone. Would there be a corrupt file I need to delete and reinstall the BBPlugin??? This does not happen in the main Band in a Box program. Thanks ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27869&filename=Capture 2.JPG) ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27870&filename=Capture 1.JPG)
Brian Cadoret
BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio
Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
Installed RAM 8.00 GB
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Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
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Same here. Been that way for a while. Doesn't stop you from selecting a RT for a selected track. ...If that makes you feel any better.
BIAB – 2025, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud (Tip: No need to create a SC account to hear music - just hit ESC ).
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Because the Picker is not part of the Plugin to have all tracks info, you are just opening Biab (BBW4) in the background, it's not part of the Plugin. BBW4 just renders the track/s to wav in the SavedTracks folder then the Plugin will play them and drag in the DAW. If you want all the Biab main app functions you are best to just drag the wav into the DAW from Biab main app or use the Rewire VST or Import SGU Reaper, or wait until they get all the generate code into the JUCE Plugin.
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MCity is right on this why do we need the tracks in the upper corner since it does not display all the track available. It is just the BiaB tracks. It maybe that this is in transition to a better option. A drop down or sliding list to show all the tracks. Time will tell. Hopefully we will see some more changes soon to the plugin when time allows.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
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Hi Brian, the absence of the "Assign to Track" section is by design. The list of tracks in that section refer only to BIAB tracks which is why it is unnecessary for it to be included in the plugin's RealTracks Picker. To assign an RT to a particular track in the plugin, all you need to do is right-click on that track and choose Select -> RealTrack. This will open the RT Picker and place whichever RT you choose on the correct track. Hope this helps!
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Thanks Adar for the explanation and appreciate that the RT Picker section is by design, of course selecting a RealTrack is simple enough. Just thought it would be very useful to have more options when looking for a particular RealTrack .( there are hundreds available) Something like the RealDrums picker options would be a great addition. ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27874&filename=Capture picker.JPG)
Brian Cadoret
BIAB 2025 Pro build 1125e with BIAB2023 UltraPAK . Samplitude Pro X4 Suite. Mixcraft 10.5 Pro Studio
Focusrite 2i2 Scarlett
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
Installed RAM 8.00 GB
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The plugin needs the multipicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
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The plugin needs the multipicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! +1
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The plugin needs the multipicker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! The plugin needs it's own multipicker otherwise BBW4 multipicker dialog would have to be open all the time. Using BBW4 it would need to leave the multipicker dialog open and always ontop, and be able to read all the instruments currently on each track in the Plugin. They just need to bite the bullet and put it all in one plugin rather than 2 apps: ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27875&filename=BBPlugin-Multipicker.png)
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They just need to bite the bullet and put it all in one plugin rather than 2 apps: Though perhaps part of the problem is that they originally "put it all" in BBW4 with similar thinking. I learned early in my career both the power of, and also the complications of, message passing and client-server architectures. My own approach would typically be to physically separate the various functions of the user-interface from the worker-threads and to do the interactions between them using messages via pipes or IP connections or whatever. It makes the initial implementation trickier, but allows all sorts of flexibility later on. I don't know how well that philosophy would fit a BIAB type application. Even if it does, it's likely a huge task to do it "in retrospect".
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11
BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software.
Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts
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I know I had to take the same approach with Reaper calling on BBW using AutoHotkey scripts that I ran from a Lua script in Reaper to access Biab functions then I could write the data to clipboard to send to Biab and copy to send back to Reaper. reaper.ExecProcess([[cmd.exe /C " cd ]] .. [[C:\\Program Files\\AutoHotkey & AutoHotkey.exe]]..[[ "]]..script_path..[[ahk\scripts\play.ahk"]],0)
reaper.CF_SetClipboard( start_measures ..",".. number_measures )
text_tempo = reaper.CF_GetClipboard()
that was all a lot of messing around so I just put it all in one script to read the current frozen SGU and transfer instantly. Why have a hidden Biab running in the background when you can run the main Biab app and instantly transfer giving a lot more control ? ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/images/icons/default_dark/lightbulb.gif) But eventually I can't see any other way than a self-contained crossplatform JUCE plugin that does it all, and works the same instantly in all DAWs. It just takes way too many years getting there, I'm gettin' old  ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27754&filename=BB24-Transfer-Track-Reaper.gif)
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
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We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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