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Well, Q6 proves my point.
There's nothing better than BIAB for traditional electric / acoustic genres for the Q5 item.
m.city
"how many people out there making music in a DAW even know about Biab and the BBPlugin"
Fewer than it deserves for sure. From Bass Thumpers post #808674 AI gave pretty reasonable explanation in Q3 answers 1, 2, 3. Especially 2+3 which can easily be viewed as one item. Smooth (bugless) workflow is everything.
Marketing has to do a bit with it too. No demo, not on popular sites like Pluginboutique, BigFish, etc.
If one yearly release would focus on just fixing bugs, improving workflow / limitation and bye bye to redundant menus and features that would go a very long way.
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Well, Q6 proves my point.
There's nothing better than BIAB for traditional electric / acoustic genres for the Q5 item.
m.city
"how many people out there making music in a DAW even know about Biab and the BBPlugin Just about every demo or tutorial of "making beats" seems to use loops or samples in a DAW, cut, sliced, quantised, compressed to death and so on. The complete antithesis of what BIAB is about. But I think the days of that may be passing ... quite a lot of what's now played on the radio is much less techno/robotic and much more human and expressive. I think that's encouraging. To reach the younger audience, perhaps what's needed is for one/some of the EDM producers to get into BIAB and make some demos/tutorials to which younger people can relate, rather like Henry Clark does for we of more advanced years. Perhaps showing how the BBPlugin can work alongside the loops/samples/slicing methods? People on these fora have produced EDM demos, often apparently quite quickly :D, and seem to have convinced, e.g., swingbabymix that it works. SBMs posts now are mostly for ideas suggestions or "help, I can't find a style like this...". It's perhaps a pity that SBM doesn't have English. The Answer 6 software ... they're none comparable to BIAB's performance quality, though they can still be useful. For me, an attraction is that of them, only one (ChordPulse) is not available foe Linux. I notice the AI didn't mention that MMA is a command-line program. 
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
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BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software.
Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts
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No one at the Reaper forum is missing doing spring yard work or whatever. Most of these ideas are just the usual improvement ideas that get posted year in year out, fix bugs, add this feature, add this genre..... I'm looking for BIG game changing ideas, doing things a different way, not the same old thing, something completely new, game changing.... AI won't help, you need DI (divine inspiration/intelligence) You guys are talking about planning a trip interstate, I'm talking about going to Mars, what would Elon do if he bought PG ? THINK BIG ! ![[Linked Image from reatrak.com]](https://reatrak.com/downloads/biab/Elon-PG.png)
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Well I don't know how big these are but a complete rewrite incorporating the following:
1-All time signatures
2-Modern customizable menus: eliminate redundancy.
3-All genres of music including EDM, R&B, trance, ambient, soul, hip hop, house, acid jazz, etc.
4-A more intuitive workflow.
5-Drop DXis and only use VSTis
All of the above and probably more is a stable VSTi.
It takes courage for a man to admit his wife was wrong.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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I would like an extension to the melodist that would allow me to generate a text-related melody. If the melody track is activated, for example:
1. Mark the first 4 bars;
2. Then right click with the mouse;
3. Floating new window opens;
4. Enter the text you have in mind;
5. Automatic hyphenation and distribution of the syllables corresponding to the number among the marked bars (only the fundamental note of the key, but the singing rhythm is appropriate for the selected style of music)
6. Button to vary rhythmic random variation (melody is still just Grunton of the selected key);
7. If no chord progression has been entered at point 1: press the button to create a random chord progression.
8. Both should be displayed in an area of the same window so that they can be edited.
9. If BiaB should create the melody with the selected syllable rhythm, a third button for suggestions that might fit.
10. The completion of this process then incorporates the melody and lyrics into the song.
If text already exists, it is desirable that it also appears in the same window and can be further edited.
It's also great if the colors of the notes are colored according to their position corresponding to the chord.
I had already suggested this wish, but unfortunately it was not implemented. Absolutely necessary, especially with tools like SynthV! VST3, which is still missing, and also MarioD's list of changes would be necessary so that I can work with such tools in a contemporary manner!
I think PG themselves have no particular interest in raising the program to current standards.
The migration of BiaB to a more modern development environment
requires manpower which also costs money. Economic considerations will probably speak against this.
As great as this program is, by failing to do so, PG is wasting a lot of the potential of their product.
This company policy hardly appeals to young people!
It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.
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First on the list - kill RB (sorry old guys). Most new users are MAC people. They don’t care about RealBand Logic, Reaper, Abelton, Pro tools- the environments serious music software needs live in. Quit trying to sell a DAW. If it works so well with BIAB make those features work in the plug in for mainstream DAW’s. IMO BIAB’s growth future is as a plugin to the above environments. Don’t rebuild the standalone UI. That’ll take million$. Instead Phase it out by attrition. As suggested by others. Fix the broken stuff, simplify(not rebuild) the UI. Spend dollars on the future, not the past. Real Tracks, Super MIDI, Styles . Those things are what makes BIAB great. Most computer users use a phone most of the time. DAW’s are available for tablets now. Don’t miss the coming convergence of software to the mobile OS platforms. Not sure what the stratedgerie to do this is, but recognize in a few years phones will have all the cpu/gpu/ram they need to run this stuff. JUCE is a cross platform framework allowing a single codebase to compile to native applications and plug-ins with the same user experience on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS and Android, across both desktop and mobile. Native applications can be launched in the iOS and Android device simulators to simplify testing and debugging, and can be packaged up for distribution within the mobile app stores.
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Adding an escape function to prevent an endless loop:
function BuildDelphiBiab
spend 6 months programming Win Biab
goto BuildMacBiab
end
function BuildMacBiab
spend another 6 months doing the same thing on Mac
if sick and tired of this
goto JUCE
else
goto BuildDelphiBiab
end
end
function JUCE
https://juce.com/
JUCE is a cross platform framework allowing a single codebase to compile to native applications and plug-ins with the
same user experience on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS and Android, across both desktop and mobile.
end
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The plugin IS the future for BIAB - not the 30 year old bloated exe we old geezers have come to love/hate etc..
Certainly no future building/maintaining a DAW to compete with those also rans like Reaper, Pro Tools, Logic, Abelton. LOL I love it !
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It's the same in the Biab wishlist, if you go back in time, there are way more on a daily basis back then. You see good suggestions that are still missed and not picked up: ![[Linked Image - Only viewable when logged in]](https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=27956&filename=Biab-Wishlist-All.png)
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This is the first time I've been here for a while and for me the reason is that BIAB is working fine and does what I want, which is to audition songs in different styles. It's an extremely useful tool in that regard. I also use it to generate the basic framework for many of my recordings, although I generally replace most of the tracks with my own performances later. It's a great time saver.
I suppose the lack of posts in the forum probably does indicate that there aren't many new users, as new users would be bound to have lots of questions.
The major change I would suggest is the PG Music should consider making the Audiophile version a bit cheaper - they'd probably sell a lot more if that version was a bit cheaper. As it is it's a huge jump from the price of the regular version to the price of the Audiophile version.
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https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/logic-pro-takes-music-making-to-the-next-level-with-new-ai-features/We won't know what it really is till we get our hands on it. It sure looks like it does some of BIAB's lifting. As both a BIAB and Logic User I already find the Logic Drummer to be helpful in my arrangements. I mostly use it to add percussion (conga, timbale, etc) to the project. I have not replaced the BIAB drummer in too many project but have used Logic Drummer to Midi - to Superior Drummer. That worked well in a couple projects. The future Will be interesting. Also, AAPL's delivery of Logic to the tablet is pretty convincing evidence you won't be tied to a desktop computer in the future..... unless. you want to be. Logic Pro takes music-making to the next level with new AI features
Session Players, Stem Splitter, and ChromaGlow make Logic Pro for iPad and Mac smarter than ever Where's PG with iPad Biab ????? Maybe I didn't mention JUCE, maybe that is the problem, otherwise they would have a Win,Lin,Mac, iOS and Android already: JUCE is a cross platform framework allowing a single codebase to compile to native applications and plug-ins with the same user experience on Windows, macOS, Linux, iOS and Android, across both desktop and mobile. Native applications can be launched in the iOS and Android device simulators to simplify testing and debugging, and can be packaged up for distribution within the mobile app stores. While PG are still working on the Mac version for the last 5 months......... ![[Linked Image from apple.com]](https://www.apple.com/newsroom/images/2024/05/logic-pro-takes-music-making-to-the-next-level-with-new-ai-features/article/Apple-Logic-Pro-on-Mac-and-iPad-240507_big.jpg.large.jpg)
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Another ghost for the town: No longer using it as I have sold off the Mac and going fully iOS with the new iPad and Logic Pro. Will keep the Sufrace pro and my Windows BIAB drive just in case I need it in the future but the Mac version Audiophile is available. $650 AUD (that's ab out $400 USD) - open to small negotiation. Will post anywhere in the World at buyer cost.
Please contact via PM if interested. And can we keep the PMs directly on topic please...no asking how I am doing anything else or plans or anything like that - PMs only about purchase enquiries, thank you
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Isn't about time somebody made time for an android version of music programs. I cannot afford to go into apple products so I'll never get to go the apple way,and at my age it's to late to try a completely new way to do new things such as Logic
which I gave up when it went only the apple way.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
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Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
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Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
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