I don't think iPad or tablet apps are going to replace larger software on PCs and Macs. It just gives a nice compact product to do live shows and work on the run. Logic as MCity is showing there is a Mac only product and is releasing a version with session players. One downside is that Logic is not very far back compatible. My version of mac from 2013 is no longer supported SO i had to abandon Logic pro. What i think PipeCity is trying to show is that the industry is heading towards AI for these types of products. BiaB and RB, will not be fully following that path as it would require a rather large rewrite towards more modern programming language. The plugin is already there to some degree, so it is the logical candidate.

We will never, i repeat NEVER see PGM abandon BiaB in favor of the Plugin as it will not bring in enough revenue to compare with BiaB. What we can hope for is that Peter can see that the Plugin does deserve to be aggressively developed to compete with these other products. It can be a bridge into the future. I agree with this assumption. If the plugin could be developed to allow as a product that creates content in any DAW then has a standalone app where one can play the content live or as needed on either a laptop or tablet then PGM would have something powerful and unique.

What comes of this is totally up to them. Continuing down the current path will keep BiaB moving along it's slow steady path but will not allow the plethora of older bugs and workflow issues to be addressed as needed. It will be interesting to see what happens.

I was against this live arranger idea at first. I wanted the plugin to stay simple and be something for just adding BiaB content to the users DAW in conjunction with BiaB as a little brother lite app. How ever after that last two years of development where some incredible features have been added to the main program, but at the cost of not addressing super important issues. 255 limit, VST3, and about 20 or 30 other very important things that need immediate attention, I am seeing that some things need to be changed. I do not think that BiaB needs to be rewritten but what it needs is the following.

1. a full year of no new features, just fix 50 old issues, and add fresh new RT/RD content.

2. turn the hounds loose on them plugin. fix it so it works as it does with reaper in all DAWs. add the ability for work in any OS. and add the modern MultiRiff, Multipicker, and free it from the Band in a box folder. I am not sure exactly how that can be done as i am not a programmer but whatever it takes do it. Cut it loose from being a free app and charge $100 for it to offset any loss from slowing down BiaB.

I am sure MLine can add more to this as he seems to have a picture of what can be done in his head. One thing for sure we will never know what is possible until PGM opens up and shares what they know is possible and what is not. They truly know the inner workings of the product and it's code structure. PGM has traditionally not been very open about long term goals and possibilities they usually keep things like this close to the hip. Sharing only what they feel we need to know. I hope they will take 10 minutes and share with those who truly care about this great product and what they plan on doing so we can stop talking about and either support them or not. but we can all relax and enjoy the ride.

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