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I may regret this tread, but...
So I am not saying that Rharv's (and others) math is incorrect. What I am saying is it don't matter. Depending on the software, it may not matter & 'just work', depending on what all the software does. The DAWs that do not need the Tempo change do not 'Generate' tracks, so they can change just the visuals and nobody will notice. BiaB (and RB) have to retain the ability to Generate, so the math behind the scenes has to account for that (IMHO). This adds a complexity that, I think, is likely the actual root of this thread. Peter's posts imply BiaB does this, but enough users have had to find different settings (like Blue Attitude) that I don't think it does in every situation. The only time it doesn't matter, as DrDan said, is when you are providing the other instruments yourself, i.e. playing them. Then it's just a number. As soon as you use another program that is generating an instrument, such as the VSTi's from Toontrack, then it does matter, and the only way to make BIAB generate a track that will work is to use the workaround I described. (Note, I am specifically talking about 6/8 time signature here) I think my example above proves this to be true. If you listen to the beats in my example and count them as 6/8 you get 75. If you listen and count them as 4/4 you get 50, which is what BIAB needs to be set to to generate a track that will work with a Toontrack VSTi set to 6/8, 75 BPM. But clearly everyone has moved on from this discussion, so I will too 
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PeterGannon
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05/12/24 02:51 PM
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05/12/24 03:17 PM
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05/12/24 04:17 PM
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05/12/24 04:48 PM
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05/12/24 05:09 PM
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05/12/24 05:17 PM
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05/12/24 07:23 PM
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05/12/24 10:51 PM
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05/13/24 04:59 PM
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05/13/24 05:20 PM
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05/13/24 05:12 PM
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