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> none of this helps me add my 6/8 EZKeys piano chords
You should add your EZkeys chords to your DAW project in 4/4, using the menu options from the screenshots that Dave posted.
Then you’ll never get into the time signature mess of 6/8 in the first place, as you’ll always be in 4/4. The song you sent me was a 4/4 song anyway. Just tap your foot along with it and you’ll see what I mean, Just because someone calls a pattern 6/8 doesn’t mean you need to change the time signature of your DAW to 6/8, especially since your DAW doesn’t support triplet (compound) time signatures, and forces you to change the tempo by a factor of 1.5x
If I was summarizing this in a one-liner it would read…
In your DAW… Forget 12/8 and 6/8… Stay in 4/4 !
If that one-liner isn’t clear, I’ll re-paste what I said above which elaborates the point…
“ many DAWS don’t support triplet (“compound) based n/8 time signatures, so they force the triplets into two 8th notes per beat instead of three, which becomes very confusing. The tempo becomes 1.5x faster for example, so that’s 75 instead of the correct tempo of 50 bpm. All these problems go away if you use the n/4 time signature equivalent of the n/8 time signature e.g. use 4/4 instead of 12/8” Success, well at least the roadblock has been removed. Setting EZK2 to 4/4 I exported the midi bars to desktop, then I input them in BIAB at 4/4 and this time - the total number of bars matched up. And the 6/8 "sound" is still present. So all my chords are now in BIAB. Now I immedialty can hear with Tempo set at 90 BPM in both EZK and BIAB, BIAB is going faster... So I change that to 60 BPM (2/3's)and now they play in unison. That is Good News. But I see a downside. All my visible part markers in EZKeys/DAW no longer line up with the music. Down beat for start of verse is now Bar 8, Beat 3 instead of Bar 11 Beat 1. But I think I can live with that or at least I can now try since I will soon be bringing content over from BIAB. I will let you know how it goes.
Last edited by DrDan; 05/20/24 02:06 PM.
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Using BIAB in various time signatures 5/4, 12/8, 6/8, 9/8, 11/4 etc.
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PeterGannon
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05/12/24 02:51 PM
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