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I’ve had some success converting real drums to midi with Melodyne but it it’s not 100%. I’m wondering if PG Music could come up with something better and maybe offer new real drums in audio and midi.
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Same here, although I have had very little success in converting audio drums to MIDI via Melodyne. Maybe recording on a MIDI drum kit would yield better MIDI, i.e. Real Drums?
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Blues.
re drums.
sometime see my drums tips in pg tips forum.
there are many ways to do drums in realband includeing a drum grid editor you can use for custom personal drum patterns.
a!so you can create drum solos various ways...see the two tips threads.
also as your aware you can use a blues midi styles from the stylepicker.
in particular check out for fast guide drum tracks in rb is a fill track with drum style patterns feature. you could also mix n match different patterns on many different tracks.
you can also create the illusion of two drummers playing together.
just experiment in rb where you could have oodles of drum tracks if you wish. also read the rb manual re the above.
lots of alternatives to explore.
also try running isolated drum stems into a audio to midi convertor in rb. you might have to do some tweaking with say rb piano roll or midi event editor.
also.in rb are various neat things you can do re moving chunks of midi data around useing bars and tracks view....eg for cases whete say you like the drums between bars 35 and 39 and you want same drums for bars 92 to 96.
finally you can in rb use right click menu to generate all sorts of tracks.
heres something i experiment with...generate a instrument track BUT THEN plugin a drums plugin instead for interesting solos and hits etc etc.
try synthmaster or sforzando as a drum plugin for example.
also lots of free drum plug in vsti and sample players on the net.
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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 05/29/24 06:59 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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I thought all RealDrums have the midi RealDrumCharts now ?
If I look in a RealDrum folder I can see an MGU file that will have the Midi RealDrums on the melody track that can be dragged to MID
I thought they were going to put midi pickups on their acoustic drums to record Midi at the same time ?
Just like the Yamaha acoustic/midi piano is used to record midi at the same time.
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Only drums recorded after 2023 (I think) have stems availably
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Yes, I have read them. Unfortunately, they’re mostly in RB. I’m on Mac.
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Real Drums have Real Charts (MIDI) for them in the plugin available for pre drum stems.
Most Drum plugins have their own mixers and separate outputs, but of you want separate MIDI tracks, many DAWs can split by MIDI notes to separate tracks.
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I thought all RealDrums have the midi RealDrumCharts now ? That's correct - all RealDrums now have MIDI charts that can be exported, either by saving a MIDI file, by using the drag/drop station, or by using the DAW plugin. Only drums recorded after 2023 (I think) have stems availably Stems are different than MIDI charts - stems are separate audio tracks for each drum, not MIDI. You're correct that drum stems were introduced recently (with the 2022 version), however some of the RealDrums that now have stems were originally released in 2008 (albeit without stems until 2022). I’ve had some success converting real drums to midi with Melodyne but it it’s not 100%. I've had good luck using Logic to do this - it's been a while so I don't remember how to do it (blame my old age), but it worked quite well for me.
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