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Hi all

I connected my SD1000 to my laptop to use it in Biab for delivering the midi sound. Also connected is StudioLive AR12C where I want to listen via headphones to me playing against backing tracks.

First no sound was heard and after some fiddling around with midi and Asio settings I had both sources in my headphones. Unfortunatelly the playing Biab song was not in synch with midi tracks and audio drum track.

I looked for something like "midi clock" setting but did not find it,

What need I do to get midi and audio data in synch with my set-up.

Thanks for your help!

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Are your peripherals set at 44.1kHz and 16 bit? If not it could cause tracks not to sync.


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Look at:

Control+E > MIDI OPTIONS (button) > Midi Options screen > Enable (check) Output Sync/Start Info. Makes sure BiaB midi data is sent to external port as defined in midi input/output settings.

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Hi Mario,

I can confirm the 44,1 kHz but do not see the bit rate information. Also opening the ASIO panel leads to a Window Error Window 117 see screenshot.
The setting has already been at this rate - audio drums are off with the midi sounds.

Any more ideas?

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That option was already active Jim.
Attached my midi settings. Maybe you see something generally wrong here?!

Cheers
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stefan.

im confused...questions

..in a bb song are you saying you have a mixture of audio and miid tracks ?
if so...
..in new bb tracks view visually do the midi tracks line up with the audio tracks ? or dont they ?

thanks.

om


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Does this screenshot explain it Muso?

Cheers

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stefan.

no i need to see the new bb 2024 tracks waveform view.
are you useing 2024. ??

please note also...though ive had surgery to greatly improve my vision
if you could make your pics bigger please.

perhaps you could also detail the steps your going through to
build a song from scratch point by point...for clarity please.
and how you interract with bb.

happiness.

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Are your MIDI tracks behind the beat of the audio drums? If so you might have a latency problem. To correct that increase your sound card's buffer size.

Also om's suggestion of the tracks pic is a good idea. Also if you can upload the song via DropBox or some other free cloud storage and give us the address of said song we can look at it ourselves.


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Museeker,

The console track, Plug-Ins view displays the midi tracks are set for the KV331 (SynthMaster3) plugin instead of MIDIOUT2 (SD1000PLUS). See if you can select SD1000PLUS or MIDIOUT2 (SD1000PLUS).

If that is not the issue then:

Your Midi Output Treiber settings display two Ketron entries, SD1000PLUS and MIDIOUT2 (SD1000PLUS) with MIDIOUT2 (SD1000PLUS) selected. Have you tried using the SD1000PLUS setting?

Have you tried without using the midi port multiplier program?


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Hi all,

the audio seems a bit before the midi or the midi lagging behind - kinda laid back...
The suggested changes did not work out for me. With the link to a web directory you find more information and the last file I used.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ajbl5gdBLaneog9GMh1phlChNs7z?e=BurS5J

Cheers Stefan

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Stefan, The file played perfectly here, i.e. it played perfectly when it is all within BiaB. All I can think of is that the problem is between your laptop and your peripherals. How are they connected to your laptop? Are both plugged directly into it? Are you using a MIDI hub? If so is it a powered hub? Are the USB chords good?

Maybe you could upload an audio version of the song so we can here exactly what you are hearing?

Were the MIDI and audio tracks all generated from BiaB or did one or more come from another source?


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Hi Museeker!

Take a look at your Driver Latency setting - this is under Options > MIDI/Audio Driver Setup. Try increasing the number there by 10, then click OK and play your song again - repeat as necessary until it's in sync. If BB prompts you with a suggested latency value, click No.

Let us know if that helps!

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