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Thanks Noel, I'll look at that, although the speed situation seem to be ok now.
Cheers
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Ok Noel, I tried that and the Stopping at random places still occurs. It seems it does it mostly when RT's are present.
Don't know what else to do. You guys have been tremendous.
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cb..
shots in the dark...
1...could you post the bb song file somewhere ...so rest of us can test it.
2..and please note resolving problems is often step by step detective work....so please be patient.
3..please also see my tips in tips forum re useing an existing pc for music production and see if anything might twig you re your system.
note the various optimisation tips and links.
4..for starters please post back details of your system..and a pic of task manager showing memory useage and cpu useage....while running bb.
5..in addition what pg pak do you have ?? ultrapak ??
do you run off the for example upak connected via usb ?? or did you do a full install from the pg pak....or minimal install ??
6..one thing i would test re the stops is...IF you in fact did a install.to your pc instead i would suggest running a test with pg pak drive connected via usb and see if stops go away running direct from the extenal pg drive....note all my work is done useing external connected pg drive and minimal install...never had a problem.just run a test.
7..are you connected to the net while doing music production ??
i never am...cos ive been burnt in the past. see my tips to save retyping.
8..wha make of sound device do you use ??
9..i ensure that win and bb and the sound device are set to
44.1 16 bit...check this on your pc....and sound device.
also does your sound device have a on screen user alp...
if so what is the buffer system ??
the more info you can give the better otherwise people trying to help you are often flying blind.
happinesd.
om 🇨🇦🇨🇦 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/11/24 04:15 PM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Mike,
Is the song an up tempo one with a number of Realtracks? Sometimes fast songs used to catch up with the regeneration process on older computers and playback paused while regeneration caught up. With this in mind, one other thing to try is...
(1) right click on the chordsheet
(2) select Song Settings
(3) activate, "This song has playback problems, disable fast generation" (it's the second last option in the right-hand column)
(4) regenerate the song
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Hi Noel, yes I've done all that and no cigar. Not sure what to do.
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Mike,
Close down BIAB. Now go to the /bb folder and double-click on bbw.exe. This will start the 32-bit version of BIAB. (The 64-bit version is started using bbw64.exe.) When the 32-bit version is ready to go, load in a song and see if it plays.
Also, how is your disk space going? That could cause issues when storage for temporary files is needed. Have the temporary files that Windows creates been allowed to build up at all?
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Hi Noel, sorry I just saw this message. I'll try that. I think that my storage space is ok.
Thanks
Mike B.
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Hi Noel, no matter which one I run, 32 or 64, still do it. is frustrating because I have not done anything different that I'm aware of to cause this, it was fine just a week or so ago.
I'll check Oldmusso tips.
Thanks to all
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Mike,
Just checking... when you first generate the song, do all the Realtracks fully generate? You will be able to see if they do by using the new "Tracks View".
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Well.. sometimes might go thru the whole song the first time without a problem, but, sometimes it stop playing before finishing.
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Well.. sometimes might go thru the whole song the first time without a problem, but, sometimes it stop playing before finishing.
Mike B. Hi Mike, Does this mean that when you generate a song and you are watching the tracks get generated in the new "Tracks View", sometimes the tracks don't finish generating? --Noel
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Pete, in your first post you said this:
“ Close it and then open it again then the cursor rushes back to that spot “
Does “it” mean close the song and reload, or close BIAB and reload?
Wild hunch: did you assemble this song using any individual RealTracks that are set to a different time base (double-time etc.)?
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Hi Noel, no, I have not done that. The only time I watched the tracks being generated it so happens that the whole song played ok, but my question is; lets say that the song stopped but the tracks generated fine, what would that means?
Interesting, I'll report back on this
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Hi Matt, I meant to close the song and when reload it the "rushing" happens. And no mostly happens with any song even from the style pick.
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Hi Noel, I did the "song settings" advice an no joy, however i discovered that even tough it stopped at some point before finishing, it generated the real tracks and drums for the whole song, however, I could not play it back.
On another note, I'm sorry to put you all thru this because it has to be frustrating for you all too. I appreciate it immensely!!
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Mike,
Your problem really has me flummoxed now. That BIAB should stop playback at random places and then, when the song is reloaded, resumes playback from the place at which it stopped is something I've never come across before. While it's possible that playback may be affected by something like an intense antivirus check, as far as I'm aware, BIAB does not store playback-resume information, so when the song is reloaded, I have no idea how BIAB takes you back to the spot that the break occurred. This sounds like there is some other program involved that is causing this.
Have you loaded or started using any new software recently?
Also... have you tried using different audio drivers? Whenever I have problems with BIAB, I always try the three available audio drivers ASIO, WAS and MME. Usually, I run on MME as that is the friendliest of divers for BIAB with most systems.
Lastly... do you only run one instance of BIAB at a time or do you have multiple instances open?
--Noel
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mike.
upthread i ssked for info on your recording pc rig.
its very difficult to help without this info...
eg a pic of active tasks on your pc when your problems occur.
ie a pic of windows task manager...
essentially the rest of us are guessing.without info from you.
i agree with noel i suspect another task running on your pc is locking out biab.
eg are you on the net while running biab....??
i use a seperate pc for the net so there is no possibility of biab being locked out
by a net activity or task...
so please post back the requested info mate...its important so people can help you...otherwise we all are grabbing at straws and flying blind.
please also read my tips in tips forum re useing any pc for music production...
and run the utility in point 1...latency monitor which reports the suitability of a pc for music production....also lots of tips re optimising a pc for music production.
happiness.
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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/15/24 03:57 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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................................. While it's possible that playback may be affected by something like an intense antivirus check, as far as I'm aware, BIAB does not store playback-resume information, so when the song is reloaded, I have no idea how BIAB takes you back to the spot that the break occurred. This sounds like there is some other program involved that is causing this.
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--Noel A few years ago I had problems with Defender interfering with BiaB. I don't remember exactly what the problem was but when I excluded the entire BB folder from Defender scanning the problem went away and has not returned. CCleaner or any other program that checks files prior or during their movement can interfere also. Have you done a full anti-virus scan? Have you done an anti-malware scan? Have you DL RKill? Or Adwcleaner? All programs are free or have free versions. If I have a problem I run CCleaner, RKill, Adwcleaner, Anti-Malwarebytes, and Windows Security in that order.
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Hi Noel, I did the "song settings" advice an no joy, however i discovered that even tough it stopped at some point before finishing, it generated the real tracks and drums for the whole song, however, I could not play it back.
On another note, I'm sorry to put you all thru this because it has to be frustrating for you all too. I appreciate it immensely!!
Mike B. Could you give us the specs of your computer? You might have to upgrade your computer to a more powerful system in order to fix your problem. 
A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !
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No, I have not run a malware scan or virus yet, I will in awhile.
here are some of the specs:
Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 22H2 (build 19045.4529)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States)
Installed: 6/13/2022 1:41:58 PM
Servicing Branch: Current Branch (CB)
Boot Mode: UEFI (Secure Boot likely not supported by this UEFI)
System Model
Hewlett-Packard p6823w
System Serial Number: MXX12109N3
Asset Tag: MXX12109N3
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Pr
3.00 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X4 960T
512 kilobyte primary memory cache
2 megabyte secondary memory cache
6 megabyte tertiary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (4 total)
Not hyper-threaded
2.02 Terabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.48 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
hp DVD RW AD-7251H5 SATA CdRom Device [Optical drive]
Generic- Compact Flash USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3
Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 5
Generic- SD/MMC USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2
Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4
SPCC Solid State Disk (1.02 TB) -- drive 0, s/n 139307220D3C00353560, rev SBFMKA.3, SMART Status: Healthy
WDC WD10EZEX-08WN4A0 [Hard drive] (1.00 TB) -- drive 1, s/n WD-WMC6Y0PA4PMV, rev 01.01A01, SMART Status: Health
Now, these are the same conditions like it was before I started to have any problems
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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