I didn't see a section for bugs so I guess I'll report it here as a wish.
I can copy and paste any regular chord from one bar to another, but I can't copy/paste a micro chord bar!
I couldn't reproduce this. I copied bars with micro-chords to other bars successfully. Steps undertaken: 1: Enter chords A on beat 1, and B on beat 3 of a bar 2: Right click on the bar and select Micro-chord settings <F6> 3: Enter micro-chords A, B C on beat 1 and D,E,F on beat 3 (see screen capture, below) 4: Press OK 5: Select the contents of the bar used in step 1 on the chord sheet and press <ctrl>C 6: Move the cursor to another bar and press <ctrl>V
Alternatively, use the copy function in the micro-chord editor to copy to another bar. Note that the copied micro-chords will not display on the chord chart until the mouse is moved over the 'copied-to' bar.
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Successfully copy and paste micro-chords by selecting a bar and using <Ctrl>C and <Ctrl>V:
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Additionally, no one here knows how you attempted to achieve this, because you didn't show any details. You only created a post with the nondescript title: 'Bug', and no information at all on how this was ever determined.
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I have copy and pasted micro chords a number of times exactly like audio track, thus it is not a bug. You seam to have a number of issues so would you please follow audio track's suggestion of your workflow. But also post what version of BiaB you are using as well as your system data and anti-stuff programs. The reason is that you may have some virus or malware issues and/or maybe your HD or SSD is failing and/or running out of room.
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Hi Mario, Thanks for your input too. From other posts, I understand that the O/P is running BIAB 2024 build 1111 on an Ultra Pak. But I agree with you, unless we know the user's workflow, how can we determine where to find any possible cause?
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Additionally, no one here knows how you attempted to achieve this, because you didn't show any details. You only created a post with the nondescript title: 'Bug', and no information at all on how this was ever determined.
Thanks AudioTrack.
I have just reproduced the bug on my system.
I don't know why you tried to complicate things with your test?
Here's what I did yesterday (multiple times) and what I did again just now.
I entered the following chords: | C | F | G | C | (D,A)(E,B) | C | F | G | C
I then selected the first bar with C and hit Ctrl-C (copy). Then I selected an empty bar and hit Ctrl-V (paste). The C chord appeared.
I repeated these steps with the second bar (F chord). The F chord appeared.
I repeated these steps with the fifth bar (micro chord). No chord appeared !
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Are you working in 2/4 time? I just ran some experiments and in 4/4 and 3/4 time the copy and paste works perfectly. But in 2/4/ time it doesn't work at all. In 2/4 time you must use the copy and paste method that is in the microchord window: see attached pic. You may have in fact found a bug.
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Addressing the premise in the first post, "I didn't see a section for bugs", we normally make a post in the regular BIAB forum to state the problem and get some verification or education from other users. A problem sometimes catches the attention of a PG Music staffer, but if it doesn't, some of the users who are testers for the company can report the problem to the developers. But step one is to ask a question and make sure it is a bug before calling it one in the post title. Step two is to edit the first post if it is resolved. If the feature really does not exist, step three is to post here.
No harm, however.
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Are you working in 2/4 time? I just ran some experiments and in 4/4 and 3/4 time the copy and paste works perfectly. But in 2/4/ time it doesn't work at all. In 2/4 time you must use the copy and paste method that is in the microchord window: see attached pic. You may have in fact found a bug.
Thanks Mario. I know you are just trying to help. And I am not trying to make any trouble.
The song is in 4/4 time. I just tried it in 3/4 and it didn't work there either.
I'm using BIAB fresh out of the box. Straight, vanilla BIAB. Starting a fresh song with three bars.
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Addressing the premise in the first post, "I didn't see a section for bugs", we normally make a post in the regular BIAB forum to state the problem and get some verification or education from other users. A problem sometimes catches the attention of a PG Music staffer, but if it doesn't, some of the users who are testers for the company can report the problem to the developers. But step one is to ask a question and make sure it is a bug before calling it one in the post title. Step two is to edit the first post if it is resolved. If the feature really does not exist, step three is to post here.
No harm, however.
OK thanks for clarifying Matt. I am a very occasional user and poster here so I didn't know the protocol for this.
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Since you have been using BiaB for 30 years I'm going to assume you are using a PC, correct? Have you tried using the method in the microchord window? Does it work? Maybe you could upload the song to the free Dropbox and post the URL so we can take a look at it? Also the more information we have about your system will help tremendously. Things like CPU speed, HD or SSD, ram, free space on the HD/SSD, etc would be very helpful because at this point it sounds like the problem is with your system; it might not be but without more info we all would still be working in the dark. Also have you run a full anti-virus scan? Have you used Ccleaner or Anti-Malwarebytes?
The reason I ask is because copy and paste in 4/4 or 3/4 works perfectly on mine and Audio Tracks machines.
Could others please check it out? It would be interesting to see if anyone else is having this problem or not. Thanx.
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Since you have been using BiaB for 30 years I'm going to assume you are using a PC, correct? Have you tried using the method in the microchord window? Does it work? Maybe you could upload the song to the free Dropbox and post the URL so we can take a look at it? Also the more information we have about your system will help tremendously. Things like CPU speed, HD or SSD, ram, free space on the HD/SSD, etc would be very helpful because at this point it sounds like the problem is with your system; it might not be but without more info we all would still be working in the dark. Also have you run a full anti-virus scan? Have you used Ccleaner or Anti-Malwarebytes?
The reason I ask is because copy and paste in 4/4 or 3/4 works perfectly on mine and Audio Tracks machines.
Could others please check it out? It would be interesting to see if anyone else is having this problem or not. Thanx.
Thanks again Mario for helping.
Yes I use a PC. I just tried the MicroChord Window method. It failed.
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I have uploaded the test file to Dropbox for you to test out. BIAB test link Here is the link.
Of note: Bar 5 only Bass does micro! But adds a fifth note (C) ! Bars 13, 14 is where I copied micro to. There are No Vibes there now! Bar 18 N/C. I froze the tracks so you could hear exactly what I heard. The tracks were not frozen while I was working with them.
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Your system look OK. I just DLed the SGU but I am tied up this tonight and tomorrow I have a recording session. The earliest I can look at this is probably tomorrow night. Sorry about that.
Have you run Ccleaner, a full virus scan, and an Anti-malware scan? It probably isn't the problem but it is worth checking out if you haven't done it already. If your system is clean then the problem isn't with it.
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Your system look OK. I just DLed the SGU but I am tied up this tonight and tomorrow I have a recording session. The earliest I can look at this is probably tomorrow night. Sorry about that.
Have you run Ccleaner, a full virus scan, and an Anti-malware scan? It probably isn't the problem but it is worth checking out if you haven't done it already. If your system is clean then the problem isn't with it.
Thanks Mario. I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase with this. I'm too rational. You are telling me someone might have created a sophisticated virus to target BIAB. But not just any BIAB feature. Specifically the copying and pasting of micro-chords! LOL!!!
Have fun with the recording!
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I have uploaded the test file to Dropbox for you to test out. BIAB test link Here is the link.
Of note: Bar 5 only Bass does micro! But adds a fifth note (C) ! Bars 13, 14 is where I copied micro to. There are No Vibes there now! Bar 18 N/C. I froze the tracks so you could hear exactly what I heard. The tracks were not frozen while I was working with them.
Worked for me:
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Of note: Bar 5 only Bass does micro! But adds a fifth note (C) ! Bars 13, 14 is where I copied micro to. There are No Vibes there now!
Here are my results when copying to bars 5 & 6 to bars 13 & 14:
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You are telling me someone might have created a sophisticated virus to target BIAB. But not just any BIAB feature. Specifically the copying and pasting of micro-chords! LOL!!!
Hmmm, I doubt that this is what Mario was intending. I understood that he was assisting to ensure that your system doesn't have any computer virus. That's all. Nothing more than that.
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Of note: Bar 5 only Bass does micro! But adds a fifth note (C) ! Bars 13, 14 is where I copied micro to. There are No Vibes there now!
Here are my results when copying to bars 5 & 6 to bars 13 & 14:
Thanks for sticking with me on this AudioTrack. I will continue to do some more experimenting.
One thing of note that maybe you can check for me.
When I click on a regular bar of chords and hit Ctrl-C I see in the bottom right corner a message highlighted in yellow saying: "Song copied to the clipboard as text"
I see the exact same message when I click on the microchord! But this is for something different I believe. For when you paste this outside BIAB, say into a notepad document, you get a ton of info about the song.
Did you check on bars 5, 13 and 14 about what I wrote?
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Note that you will have to add a main chord as well as the micro-chords, because this style consists of held vibes, starting (usually) on the first beat of the bar, with each note (usually) 4 beats in length. There appears to be no place to trigger them from micro-chords. This presumably is a designed part of the specific track RT1217.
When I add a main chord, these vibes play perfectly on the original and copied notes (unfreeze first!):
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