PG Music Home Forums PG Music Wishlists Band-in-a-Box Wishlist Bug [Resolved]

Index

Print Thread

Go To

Page 2 of 6

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812902 06/08/24 08:59 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319 B BIABman OP Journeyman
OP BIABman Journeyman B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Originally Posted by BIABman You are telling me someone might have created a sophisticated virus to target BIAB. But not just any BIAB feature. Specifically the copying and pasting of micro-chords! LOL!!! Hmmm, I doubt that this is what Mario was intending. I understood that he was assisting to ensure that your system doesn't have any computer virus. That's all. Nothing more than that. Yes but I was trying to think through logically what a potential virus would/wouldn't do. None of my dozens and dozens of apps are 'misbehaving' in any way. Only BIAB is. So if I do have a virus, does it make sense that it would only affect BIAB? See where I am coming from now? A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812903 06/08/24 09:10 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319 B BIABman OP Journeyman
OP BIABman Journeyman B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Note that you will have to add a main chord as well as the micro-chords, because this style consists of held vibes, starting (usually) on the first beat of the bar, with each note (usually) 4 beats in length. There appears to be no place to trigger them from micro-chords. This presumably is a designed part of the specific track RT1217. When I add a main chord, these vibes play perfectly on the original and copied notes (unfreeze first!): Thanks for that info about the 'main chord'. I did originally have a 'main chord' at the start. But when the micro chords started playing back in a 'wonky' fashion I started to experiment. I thought the transparent chord (main chord) might be the reason it wasn't working. I soon discovered I could delete everything in the bar and then add the micro chords and have the 'main chord' disappear. I thought this was a good thing! Anyway I put back the main chord now and this is what happened. On the first pass the micro chords played (not the best voicings though). But... on the second pass I got a triplet feel on the first two chords and (2) 1/16ths , 1/16th rest and 1/16th note on the second beat (three chords instead of two). So back to 'wonky' (buggy) chords. A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: Bug BIABman #812904 06/08/24 09:11 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by BIABman Did you check on bars 5, 13 and 14 about what I wrote? Yes, I think it's related to how this particular RealTrack was recorded. The notes are quite sparse. I listened to the soloed vibes demo in the RealTracks picker. The performer doesn't start every note on the first beat, sometimes he plays as a pickup note (like a push). This may affect the result you are hearing when you have a chord on the first beat of the bar. I also tried adding a chord on the 4th beat of the preceding bar and this improved the result somewhat. Not perfect, but perhaps an improvement. Maybe someone from PG Music can jump in and clarify why you are having so many issues with this style? They will know exactly how the track was recorded. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812907 06/08/24 09:26 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319 B BIABman OP Journeyman
OP BIABman Journeyman B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Originally Posted by BIABman Did you check on bars 5, 13 and 14 about what I wrote? Yes, I think it's related to how this particular RealTrack was recorded. The notes are quite sparse. I listened to the soloed vibes demo in the RealTracks picker. The performer doesn't start every note on the first beat, sometimes he plays as a pickup note (like a push). This may affect the result you are hearing when you have a chord on the first beat of the bar. I also tried adding a chord on the 4th beat of the preceding bar and this improved the result somewhat. Not perfect, but perhaps an improvement. Maybe someone from PG Music can jump in and clarify why you are having so many issues with this style? They will know exactly how the track was recorded. Yes I hope someone from PG Music can help out. There are no "soloed vibes" with this Test song. It uses _SMALLHR.STY. Did you get only Bass notes playing the 'mico chords' in bar 5? And did you notice the micro chords played by bass only, added a 5th note when there should have been only four? Did you get the vibes playing in bars 13 and 14? The micro chords should have been copied there. And the 'copying' affected the G chord in bar 14 because it doesn't sound either. "Of note: Bar 5 only Bass does micro! But adds a fifth note (C) ! Bars 13, 14 is where I copied micro to. There are No Vibes there now!. " A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: Bug BIABman #812908 06/08/24 09:37 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,914 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,914 Australia	Hi BIABman, I can reproduce your issue with copying the microchords. In your earlier post you said... Originally Posted by BIABman I then selected the first bar with C and hit Ctrl-C (copy). Then I selected an empty bar and hit Ctrl-V (paste). The C chord appeared. By "selected", I'm guessing that you left-clicked the mouse on the C chord. This located the cursor at the C chord. Technically, this bar hasn't been "selected" because it's not blacked out at this stage. Pressing CTRL+C, in this instance, will copy the C chord in the first half of the bar. Then, when you locate the cursor somewhere else on the chordsheet, and use CTRL+V, the chord is pasted at this location (even if it's beat 3 of another bar). When I try the above process with the microchords, clicking on the microchord (without selecting them), pressing CTRL+C followed by CTRL+V does not work. However, if you select the whole bar as Audiotrack did by clicking on the microchords and dragging the mouse across the bar so that the bar turns black (to show that it's selected), then using CTRL+C followed by CTRL+V works fine. Regards, --Noel MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Bug Noel96 #812911 06/08/24 10:50 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	Good point Noel, many thanks. I was presuming that the bar(s) were selected using the standard computer method used for selecting most objects, like holding the <shift> key pressed while clicking on the required bar(s), or with the <shift> key pressed, using the keyboard cursor arrow keys to select them, then pressing Control-C to make the actual copy of the selected objects. Perhaps BIABman was not selecting bars that way at all? BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812913 06/08/24 11:38 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,914 Australia Noel96 Veteran
Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 19,914 Australia	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Good point Noel, many thanks. I was presuming that the bar(s) were selected using the standard computer method used for selecting most objects, like holding the <shift> key pressed while clicking on the required bar(s), or with the <shift> key pressed, using the keyboard cursor arrow keys to select them, then pressing Control-C to make the actual copy of the selected objects. Perhaps BIABman was not selecting bars that way at all? I'm only guessing, Trev. But since I was able to reproduce BIABman's results doing it that way, it seems like a possibility. It's interesting because selecting something by simply clicking on it is like clicking on a word in an MS Word document and to select it. This doesn't work and it's necessary to select the whole word in some way. That said, in MS Excel, the contents of a cell can be copied by simply clicking on a cell (and using CTRL+C/V). The underlying structure of the original BIAB chordsheet seems to resemble a spreadsheet's cell rather than the text in a document file. I'm guessing that the microchord addition to the chordsheet is more akin to a document overlay on the original spreadsheet-like base. MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2025 audios on Soundcloud

Re: Bug Noel96 #812915 06/08/24 11:56 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by Noel96 I'm guessing that the microchord addition to the chordsheet is more akin to a document overlay on the original spreadsheet-like base. I think that's probably a very accurate assumption. Yes, some sort of overlay is probably in place. Thanks for your input, as Mario and I have been trying to get this resolved for a few days now, it's really appreciated Trev BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812956 06/09/24 07:04 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,441 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,441 Hamlin NY	This is getting real interesting. If I click on just the micro chords CTRL C & V doesn't' work. BUT if I highlight the entire measure CTRL C & V does work! Would someone please verify on your machines. PS - this illustrates how important it is to fully describe ones workflow and system specs when asking for help. The fitness trainer asked me, "What kind of a squat are you accustomed to doing?" I said, "Diddly." 64 bit Win 11 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Bug MarioD #812959 06/09/24 07:28 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by MarioD This is getting real interesting. If I click on just the micro chords CTRL C & V doesn't' work. BUT if I highlight the entire measure CTRL C & V does work! Would someone please verify on your machines. PS - this illustrates how important it is to fully describe ones workflow and system specs when asking for help. Mario, yes, I was always highlighting the entire measure(s) with mouse select (see my animated screen captures), and presumed that the O/P was doing the same. But perhaps they did not use the same approach. I never presumed that one could successfully select half a measure with a single click. The cell doesn't even highlight the same way. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812965 06/09/24 08:47 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,441 Hamlin NY MarioD Veteran
MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,441 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Originally Posted by MarioD This is getting real interesting. If I click on just the micro chords CTRL C & V doesn't' work. BUT if I highlight the entire measure CTRL C & V does work! Would someone please verify on your machines. PS - this illustrates how important it is to fully describe ones workflow and system specs when asking for help. Mario, yes, I was always highlighting the entire measure(s) with mouse select (see my animated screen captures), and presumed that the O/P was doing the same. But perhaps they did not use the same approach. I never presumed that one could successfully select half a measure with a single click. The cell doesn't even highlight the same way. I also was using the highlight the measure(s) and using the mouse technique to copy them. I didn't think anyone would/could copy and paste a half a measure either but I thought maybe that was what he was doing. As we said without his entire workflow we are flying blind and doing things the way WE do things and not necessarily His way of doing things. The fitness trainer asked me, "What kind of a squat are you accustomed to doing?" I said, "Diddly." 64 bit Win 11 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Bug Noel96 #812976 06/09/24 11:18 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319 B BIABman OP Journeyman
OP BIABman Journeyman B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319	Originally Posted by Noel96 Hi BIABman, I can reproduce your issue with copying the microchords. In your earlier post you said... Originally Posted by BIABman I then selected the first bar with C and hit Ctrl-C (copy). Then I selected an empty bar and hit Ctrl-V (paste). The C chord appeared. By "selected", I'm guessing that you left-clicked the mouse on the C chord. This located the cursor at the C chord. Technically, this bar hasn't been "selected" because it's not blacked out at this stage. Pressing CTRL+C, in this instance, will copy the C chord in the first half of the bar. Then, when you locate the cursor somewhere else on the chordsheet, and use CTRL+V, the chord is pasted at this location (even if it's beat 3 of another bar). When I try the above process with the microchords, clicking on the microchord (without selecting them), pressing CTRL+C followed by CTRL+V does not work. However, if you select the whole bar as Audiotrack did by clicking on the microchords and dragging the mouse across the bar so that the bar turns black (to show that it's selected), then using CTRL+C followed by CTRL+V works fine. Regards, --Noel Thanks Noel, AudioTrack and Mario for staying with me on this! We have finally solved the 'copying' problem! Almost. You are correct. I wasn't selecting by making the cell look black. I was simply clicking on the cell, that's all. I say "Almost" because why is it that when I use this method for any non-micro chord cell, I can copy and then paste a chord to another bar? Why is BIAB fussy about this only with micro chords? Anyway, I've learned the trick and people need to be warned about this, OR PGMusic might be able to allow micro chords to be copied using the same method (simply clicking on a bar). Now let's continue because we are not out of the woods yet. We just solved the copying problem. (BTW, the copying problem was the least of all my recent concerns.) * I need to add a little more here on the copying. Up until now I had only tried the Micro Chord menu method for copying the micro chords just a few times, without any success. I just did a few more tests now with this method and here are the results: One more copying 'quirk'. The micros were only copied when the cell to be copied to was hovered over/clicked on OR when any other cell was clicked on. Last edited by BIABman; 06/09/24 02:21 PM. Reason: additional copying quirk A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: Bug BIABman #812977 06/09/24 11:25 AM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319 B BIABman OP Journeyman
OP BIABman Journeyman B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319	OK now that we've got the copying part out of the way, we still have some work to do, because there still are underlying bugs with the micro chords. AudioTrack stated above that the 'main chord' is needed because the style I am using consists of held vibes??? He said the micro chords need to be triggered. This is news to me. Why do micro chords need to be "triggered". If I type a C in a bar I expect to hear a C chord. Why shouldn't I expect to hear a C and G in a bar if I type a micro chord with (C,G)? ------------- Next test: Bar 5 has Main chord C and micro chords (C,G)(C,G) on first two beats. Bar 9 has just micro chords (C,G)(C,G) on first two beats. Bar 5 plays a C chord and on top of that the Bass plays the 'micro chords' but also adds a fifth 'micro chord' after that. Of course they aren't micro chords but rather single bass notes. Bar 9 plays just the micro chords, but not by the Vibes! The Bass once again plays the 'micro chords'. Single notes and also adds a fifth 'micro chord' after that! Of course the bass should not be playing the micro chords alone and there should NOT be a fifth note played. To me these are bugs. They are reproducible. A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: Bug BIABman #812985 06/09/24 02:28 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	I tried to explain that the style consists of held chords, which generally start on the first beat of the bar. Micro-chords don't necessarily start on the first beat of the bar. So if the recording doesn't have a note to play on e.g. 'the and of the first beat', because no sound has ever been recorded at that point, you won't necessarily expect to hear anything from that micro-chord position. Remember that RealTracks are pre-recorded audio passages, not MIDI. If the performer didn't record anything on that beat position, there's nothing to play back. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812986 06/09/24 02:33 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	Try temporarily changing that track to a MIDI style and see if there is a difference. Alternatively, try changing that track to some other style (not vibes) and see if there is a difference in what plays on those specific bars / beats. That might assist you to understand that if there are no notes recorded at those positions by the recording artist, then there is nothing available to play back. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812988 06/09/24 02:44 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319 B BIABman OP Journeyman
OP BIABman Journeyman B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319	Originally Posted by AudioTrack I tried to explain that the style consists of held chords, which generally start on the first beat of the bar. Micro-chords don't necessarily start on the first beat of the bar. So if the recording doesn't have a note to play on e.g. 'the and of the first beat', because no sound has ever been recorded at that point, you won't necessarily expect to hear anything from that micro-chord position. Remember that RealTracks are pre-recorded audio passages, not MIDI. If the performer didn't record anything on that beat position, there's nothing to play back. Thanks again AudioTrack. I'm still trying to understand the basic concepts of BIAB and audio, I listen to a style and like it. In this case it's mostly long held chords for each bar. How do you and I know that the musician who recorded the style didn't ALSO record a bunch of other stuff during their recording session that's there to be called upon if necessary? Perhaps consisting of syncopated stuff? Starting on beat 4 or beat 1& etc. etc. etc.? I don't understand how you can say "Oh the micro chords can only be played IF the main chords occur here and there". That totally baffles me. Unless someone from PG Music tells me otherwise, I'd think that a micro chord can chop up anything that the musician recorded at their session. So it can take a long held chord and chop it up into pieces. Or are you also saying that micro chords can only be played if the musician recorded 'x' number of micro chords? That's a heck of a lot of micro chords to record! Every main chord they recorded and then chopped up, sliced and diced. A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: Bug AudioTrack #812997 06/09/24 03:59 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319 B BIABman OP Journeyman
OP BIABman Journeyman B Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 319	Originally Posted by AudioTrack Try temporarily changing that track to a MIDI style and see if there is a difference. Alternatively, try changing that track to some other style (not vibes) and see if there is a difference in what plays on those specific bars / beats. That might assist you to understand that if there are no notes recorded at those positions by the recording artist, then there is nothing available to play back. Thanks. The further and further I go down this rabbit hole the more complicated and weird things get. One thing about BIAB that's a certainty. There's never a dull moment with the program. I couldn't figure out how to swap the audio parts for midi so I went for a change of style. I swapped _SMALLHR for _SJAZZC1 and got more unexpected results. I am working with the same chords: Bar 5 has a 'main chord' of C plus two micro chords, (C,G) and (C,G) on beats one and two. Bar 9 has NO 'main chord' but has two micro chords, (C,G) and (C,G) on beats one and two. This is what I heard: Bar 5 played the micro chords straight this time using the Electric piano and bass played them too. Bar 9 played the micro chords straight this time using the Electric piano and bass played them too. BUT along with this a C chord was played right after the micro chords DESPITE there being NO C CHORD in the chart! It did it in bar 5 and 9. So once again unexpected results. Not to mention the highly disturbing liberties that BIAB is taking, by ignoring the chords I typed in! Playing a bunch of upper extensions on my F7 chord and changing one of my G chords to G7! A BIAB user for more than 30 years (if you can believe it) !

Re: Bug BIABman #813006 06/09/24 07:01 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,096 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,096 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Originally Posted by BIABman Not to mention the highly disturbing liberties that BIAB is taking, by ignoring the chords I typed in! Playing a bunch of upper extensions on my F7 chord and changing one of my G chords to G7! About this part, take a look at the article I wrote in Tips and Tricks: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=694482#Post694482 BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Bug BIABman #813007 06/09/24 07:27 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	Quote I don't understand how you can say "Oh the micro chords can only be played IF the main chords occur here and there". That totally baffles me. I think that's taken a little out of context. With this Style, the vibes (generally) play on the first beat of the bar, and not on any other beat position. Remember that this is an audio recording. If there is nothing already recorded on one of the micro-chord positions then there is no audio available to play back. But you can add a chord to the first beat of the bar and then, if there is audio available at that beat position, it can be played back. I'm not sure how I can explain that more clearly. This is pre-recorded audio. It's not made up on the fly like MIDI. If there's no audio ever recorded on a different part of the bar, then there's nothing to play back. But for this style, there is usually audio recorded on the first beat. That's not a bug at all. If no audio was recorded at other beat positions, then how can one expect sound to be delivered? BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Bug BIABman #813008 06/09/24 07:35 PM Band-in-a-Box Wishlist
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia AudioTrack Veteran
AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,362 Melbourne, Australia	I changed the Vibes track to MIDI using the Vibes from HeldBosa.Sty As I expected, the micro-chords play, because this is MIDI, not a pre-recorded audio passage where no audio was originally recorded at those other beat positions. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Go To

Page 2 of 6

Moderated by Andrew - PG Music, Catherine, PeterGannon, pgmoderation

Link Copied to Clipboard

ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News

August 22, 2025

XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!

Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!

Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!

August 06, 2025

Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!

It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!

We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!

Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:

Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!

Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!

July 27, 2025

New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!

We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!

Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!

Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.

Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles

Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)

And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.

You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.

Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!

The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!

July 23, 2025

Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!

With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
Playable RealTracks Set 4
RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!

July 21, 2025

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

July 21, 2025

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

July 21, 2025

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

More News