(written with text to speech in a hurry. EXPECT typos! smile This may come across as more snarky than I mean it to. Just no time to edit my article. ha! :))

Izzy, a condescending attitude and gaslighting tactics probably won't go over well here. That's not a threat or anything, it's more of a "heads up" because you are newer to the forum. I would truly love to see you stick around and make some great music! You having 52 posts explaining to someone with over 11,000 posts how this forum works seems a bit off to me. I'm sure you have experience with other forums; but maybe get a bit more of a feel for who you are correcting. FJ happens to be one of the best writers, producers and ambassadors for the product and about the nicest person you will meet on this forum. He's not someone that deals with a lot of flowering language or a pushover though. He truly does listen and can appreciate other peoples views. I just don't like him! (absolutely kidding)

That being said, his whole point in this thread was to give appreciation to those who are involved with making this entire product possible. He sees FIRST HAND what goes into it and how dedicated the people are. There are plenty of other threads that are hammering on what people feel is wrong or needs to be changed. So there is no lack of that content AT ALL. There was definitely a lack of content that showed gratitude for the product. Was it really too much to ask for a thread to be about giving thanks? If someone where to view this COMPANY forum they might think, based off of who many have chosen to go about "change," that the product isn't good. IT'S FANSTIC! Of course there will always be room for improvement. That's any software. It's the reason for upgrades and versions. None of that was what the spirit of this thread was.

Originally Posted by Izzy
Floyd with all due respect.
Perhaps you are a wee bit peeved because you consider that your op has been somewhat hijacked but that is just the nature of the beast of a public forum.

You really like to emphasize "public" yet, this isn't a public forum. You can't just roll in here and start spouting off. You need to create an account. It's a private forum with some public access. It is owned by a company. They can delete posts, ban people, and shut the whole thing down if they want to. Much like Walmart is open to the public, but it's still private.

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IMO if one choses to broadcast their sentiments on a public forum rather than DM the recipiant

This was meant to be a different, viewable to the public, thanking of the company. Not something for a one on one behind the scenes conversation. I'm not sure if you missed that?

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then one should not seek to suppress selective public responses
He wasn't looking to suppress responses. Just wow that you think that. He made a thread that had a purpose DIFFERENT from the others that were already created to deal with the subject that was being reinterested here. Suppression would be say not to talk abou that at all. He simply asked not to turn this thread with a different purpose, into being the same as the other threads. To honor the spirit of this post. Even, essentially, encouraging people to express their opinions. in the other threads designed for that already. That's not suppression.

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as long as they are relevent, courteous and respectful.

Was it relevant? No. It was straying from being relevant.

Was it courteous? No. Courteous would be sticking to the intent of this thread. Even after it was asked to consider keeping it on topic.

Was it respectful? No. Again for the same reasons.


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Sorry you have that perception Floyd. I have been and remain a huge fan of BIAB.


The second sentence would have been a good start and end considering the OP's intent, IMO

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But

oh no... eek

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I see clouds on the horizon and believe that more modern RT's are required to appeal to a demograpic that are this side of breathing.

I don't think he was disagreeing with with this. At no point did I see him mentioning that they need to stop coming out with new content.

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If anyone dissagrees or are offended by my opinion I am happy to be shown the errors of my way. I actually want BIAB to be around for a long time and believe the occasional tap on the shoulder is far healthier than constant pats on the back but if the great unwashed think that the status quo is all hunky dory then so be it.
The idea wasn't to ignore possible improvements. It's just that that has been covered so much in other threads. The point of this thread was to talk about a different subject. To thank people who are working hard on a product that many of us enjoy. To show gratitude for that. That's a bit different than feeling the need to interject what you maybe think is wrong wrong with the product.

I have an absolutely awesome marriage. I happen to be lucky enough to be married to the love of my life and best friend. She isn't perfect; and neither am I. But on our anniversary I don't plan on bringing up the things that need to be improved and focus on the things that could be better. I will make damn sure she knows how much I love her and she means to me. We do work on what needs to be worked on though. We both recognize there is a time and place for that though. We try to never confuse the two. It's actually not that hard.

I too am now done. This hi-jacking horse needed to be flogged a bit. FJ has enough sense and class not to say much about this. I lack both and apologize to the thread for further disruption. I love the intent of the thread and hope it continues in a much better way. Not because of what I said; but because I have gotten to know many of you, and know how valuable this product has been and continues to be for us.

I feel this thread was needed and also want to give thanks to FJ for offering some balance.

Chad (Hope that makes it easier)

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