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Well I like to think I have a "super duper computer system", However, using your file and editing however possible, best I could get was everything except "smooth triplet eighths"  I am pretty sure I know exactly what we are trying to get here, and as i said I made every combination in F6 for these bars and there was everything but the "one and a two and a" ...
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Well I like to think I have a "super duper computer system", However, using your file and editing however possible, best I could get was everything except "smooth triplet eighths"  I am pretty sure I know exactly what we are trying to get here, and as i said I made every combination in F6 for these bars and there was everything but the "one and a two and a" ... It's a tricky bugger for sure. 
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Anyone have sheet music for this? That's my language. Somebody earlier in some thread asked if I know notation. Yes, I do. I have written pieces for big bands and symphony orchestras.
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Anyone have sheet music for this? That's my language. Somebody earlier in some thread asked if I know notation. Yes, I do. I have written pieces for big bands and symphony orchestras. I don't have sheet music for it, but I was trying to trace that magic chord in bar 17. How it got there etc. The best I could do was peek into the Audio view, and see the wave for it. Then I copied it to another bar to see how I could manipulate it. But I still don't have a clue how to enter it in the Chord view. I even tried to copy and paste the invisible bar but that didn't work. Actually, come to think of it, I do have the sheet music for the song, but it's inside a video, if that would help you.
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I was trying to get a style to sound like the band demo they have at their website. ... If you can get the micro chord bar to play smooth triplet eighths I'll be your monkey's uncle. OK, Back to basics. I need to get some clarification. Please explain if the Band Demo you mentioned above played the smooth triplet eights you are seeking. Yes, or No?
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I was trying to get a style to sound like the band demo they have at their website. ... If you can get the micro chord bar to play smooth triplet eighths I'll be your monkey's uncle. OK, Back to basics. I need to get some clarification. Please explain if the Band Demo you mentioned above played the smooth triplet eights you are seeking. Yes, or No? Hi AudioTrack. Oh no. These are two totally separate issues. The Band demo was strictly a general 'style sound' issue. The micro chord bar is dealing specifically with micro chords. There were no micro chords involved in the Band demo/style discussion.
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i dont know if this helps but im kinda chuffed at myself...lol. got it working per your note layout image. not bad for a dumb rocker like me...lol.
ie...da tada tadadadadadada...right ?? in swing jazz vibe...
heres how i got it...hopefully it helps eg bar 14.
1..i erased the existing frozen vibes real track in track window....then 2..i left bar 14 in chord window blank...then 3...i entered in bb piano roll your note pattern per your note image..then... 4...i used sforzando p!ugin i loaded up on what was your vibes track i had deleted..what was a rt waveform track..now a midi track...then... 5...in sforzando i used playable track set to vibes in sforzando. et voila...success.
yippee...phew...lmao. i know its a tad convoluted but it was only way to do it useing piano roll in conjunction with selecting playable vibes real track in sforzando.
to summarise..whats happening here ??...answer essentially we have used a modified playable real track driven by the piano roll triplets you wanted...per your image. fyi playable tracks are a very nice feature now in bb.... ie essential!y now ...with a bit of work...the song creator now can control what the session muso is doing....see pg manual n vids for further info on playable real tracks etc etc.
maybe youll think my method is rubbish...dunno...buti found it the only way rather than useing microhords feature....
....its catchy...da dada dadadadadadada... very cool result imho....
hth...me a happy lad...i hate to be beaten by this stuff. is it a workaround ??...some might think that...but only solution to the dilemma imho.
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Last edited by justanoldmuso; 06/16/24 10:49 AM.
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... ie...da tada tadadadadadada...right ?? in swing jazz vibe...
to summarise..whats happening here ??...answer essentially we have used a modified playable real track driven by the piano roll triplets you wanted...per your image. fyi playable tracks are a very nice feature now in bb.... ie essential!y now ...with a bit of work...the song creator now can control what the session muso is doing....see pg manual n vids for further info on playable real tracks rtc etc.
maybe youll think my method is rubbish...dunno...buti found it the only way rather than useing microhords feature....
....its catchy...da dada dadadadadadada... very cool result imho....
hth...me a happy lad...i hate to bebeaten by this stuff. is it a workaround ??...some might think that...but only solution to the dilemma imho.
happiness.
om 🇨🇦🇨🇦 🇬🇧🇬🇧 "ie...da tada tadadadadadada...right ??" Yes that's it.  Thanks for going the extra distance on this muso! Rather than me trying to recreate everything you did, for the time being, can you upload your solution (a file) somewhere where I can listen to it first?
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ok...suggest a file upload site that doesnt want my personal info and setting up accounts blah blah.
btw...big day today...england play footie with serbia in euros... so if you dont hear from for a coupla hours.
when you get the file notice the bar 14 in piano roll... and sforzando setting..
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bbman..
ok...suggest a file upload site that doesnt want my personal info and setting up accounts blah blah.
btw...big day today...england play footie with serbia in euros... so if you dont hear from for a coupla hours.
when you get the file notice the bar 14 in piano roll... and sforzando setting..
om Not sure, I thought you were the computer guru here?  Maybe Google Drive?
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Thanks again for helping muso! I got the file.  Nice sparse piano playing. There's just a few problems though. I'm looking for vibes. I'm looking for long held notes with the vibes. And most importantly with this challenge, I'm looking for that micro chord triplet (E9,F9) (E9,F9). 
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england 1 serbia 0...so far...yay..
ive taken it as far as i can mate...
1.. was mainly focused on bar 14 with an example of triplets per your image.
2..if you want long held notes you can draw them in piano roll... and remember to leave bar blank in chords window.
3..for vibes...just use a plugin with the midi piano roll driving vibes setting....be carefull in piano roll top left to set to the right track so you see the notes in the piano roll mate.
i think where the disconnect is that you want bb track generation to reflect your bar chord arrangement as you hear in your head... eg long held notes...but the only way to get what you want and hear what is in your head...im afraid in this song you will need to get down n dirty with the piano roll and enter the notes you wanr...so you take back control from bb generation.
its very important that even tho you enter your chords a certain way in chord window it doesnt necessarily mean bb track generation will obey what you hear in your head mate. its the same with my songs...eg in my sig..out of 100 songs ive done in bb/rb ...they all needed some editing ...and moveing notes and bars n riffs around till i got what i heard in my head.
heres a big tip for you...in rb is a nifty feature for midi tracks whereby... an example...lets say you liked that bar 14 and you want same triplets arrange in say bar 39 in rb BARS VIEW...you just copy n paste 14 to 39.
all im saying mate is...sometimes you can get lucky with bb generating a track as per what you hear in your mind...just dont bank on it. if you want notes to be perfect as you hear in your head re arrangement ya gotta get into the piano roll...THEN have the piano roll drive a playable real track...this gives you control rather than bb.
Bottom line...with this type of song i would get what i hear in my head useing piano roll and or a midi kbd...rather than relying bb to create tracks and making decisions.
keep jazzin...
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OM, you are being very king and helpful, as always, but... you are way off the mark with this one. (respectively said).
The OP wants to use the BIAB features for MicroChords. You know that feature that allows you to place chords in a bar at 1/16th note resolution. It was one of the new 50 new features from years back now. In the F6 menu it has a selection for "triplets". Triplets are not something the OP hears in his head, it is a well defined sound and understood form of notation and playback. But the Micro Chords is NOT playing the chords in this manner.
What you are giving us is a "workaround". Which may be fine. (BTW, I tried to DL you version using midi in the piano roll, but that site you use for storage tried to DL other software along with your file!! - Please git a google account and use the free Goggle Drive like everyone else.
So I can't listen to your file to see exactly how effective your workaround was.
I feel the OPs challenge should remain open until Simon gives it ago and either shows us how it is done or acknowledges it is not working .This thread is NOT resolved.
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What you are giving us is a "workaround". Which may be fine. (BTW, I tried to DL you version using midi in the piano roll, but that site you use for storage tried to DL other software along with your file!! - Please git a google account and use the free Goggle Drive like everyone else.
So I can't listen to your file to see exactly how effective your workaround was.
I feel the OPs challenge should remain open until Simon gives it ago and either shows us how it is done or acknowledges it is not working .This thread is NOT resolved. 👍 Thanks again Dan. You are quite right with what you wrote to Muso above. One small thing though. I made several threads in a flurry a week or so ago. There is actually another thread I made dedicated to this Micro Chord problem (which I do believe is a bug). In this thread however I stated at the top: "I can copy and paste any regular chord from one bar to another, but I can't copy/paste a micro chord bar!" So this thread was about copying and pasting the micro chords that were typed in. Not about getting them to play properly. We eventually figured out why the chords weren't being copied properly on my computer. To copy a bar, I had always simply clicked on a bar with chords and hit Ctrl-C (copy) and then clicked on the bar I wanted to copy to and then hit Ctrl-V (paste). How was I to know that Micro Chords can not be copied using this method? 
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drdan and bbman...
when i tested both sites i just got the file...nothing else...so im amazed. no warning from antivirus etc either.
anyhoo..ive given the old college try and will bow out now...n watch the soccer. i will be interested to see if anyone produces a better solution.. im prepared to get egg on my face...but i feel the solution lies in piano roll use.
anyhoo good news england won...lol.
happiness.
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OK, Back to basics. I need to get some clarification. Please explain if the Band Demo you mentioned above played the smooth triplet eights you are seeking. Yes, or No? There were no micro chords involved in the Band demo/style discussion. OK, so if the recording artist didn't record any audio passage on the micro-chord beats, there's no audio to play back. Period. These are pre-recorded audio passages, from 1 to several bars long. It's been explained that this particular style consists of long held chords that resonate.
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OK, Back to basics. I need to get some clarification. Please explain if the Band Demo you mentioned above played the smooth triplet eights you are seeking. Yes, or No? There were no micro chords involved in the Band demo/style discussion. OK, so if the recording artist didn't record any audio passage on the micro-chord beats, there's no audio to play back. Period. These are pre-recorded audio passages, from 1 to several bars long. It's been explained that this particular style consists of long held chords that resonate.Thanks AudioTrack, but we're still not on the same page with this.  I understood what you were trying to say about this the first time you were explaining about what the musician recorded at the session. "OK, so if the recording artist didn't record any audio passage on the micro-chord beats, there's no audio to play back. Period." You've reached an erroneous conclusion here. First of all you are talking about "the recording artist". Which artist are you referring to? Certainly not the band demo artist because they have nothing to do with this conversation at all. So that leaves the recording artist who played the vibes in the style _Jazvibe.sty. How do you know what he/she recorded? How do you know they DID NOT record any micro chords? Micro chords are being played in my song. Just not the right ones and not in the right rhythm. Do you understand what I am saying now? They could have recorded 100 micro chords. We just don't know. Or micro chords might be using a special BIAB algorithm, where they take a full chord and chop it up on the fly. I don't know about that, do you? In any event neither you nor I know what "the recording artist" for the style recorded. And to say, just because I am not getting the micro chord to play, "Well that proves the artist never recorded those specific micro chords" is erroneous I think. I need to add one more very important point. You might have missed the exchange I was having with Matt yesterday on this subject. To both his and my surprise we actually discovered the micro chords being played perfectly in one of my test songs!!! Neither he nor I know how they were entered but they are there for anyone to listen to! What does this prove? It proves that "the recording artist" did in fact record these micro chords OR BIAB is using a special algorithm to create these chords on the fly as I mentioned above.
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Both you guys are on the right track.  In general, what is happening with the MC features is the same thing which applies to many features in BIAB. I call it " Conditional Dependence". The feature operates or does not operate as you expect: depending upon conditions which we don't know and which we may or may not be able to control. Simple right? One of the biggest CD are the styles themselves. How many times has the fix for a specific problem been - choose a different style? Another common CD are the tracks themselves, remember "not all tracks are the same". It is just the nature of the beast. All you can do is try it and if it works great and if not, well put a note in the forum. 
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... One of the biggest CD are the styles themselves. How many times has the fix for a specific problem been - choose a different style? Another common CD are the tracks themselves, remember "not all tracks are the same". It is just the nature of the beast. All you can do is try it and if it works great and if not, well put a note in the forum.  👍
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Our new rock & pop RealTracks bring a powerful mix of requested favorites, fresh genres, and modern chart-inspired styles! We have more of our popular “Producer Layered Acoustic Guitars (15)” featuring Band-in-a-Box favorite Brent Mason. We’ve continued our much-requested disco styles (10), and added new Celtic guitar (5) with a more basic, accessible approach than our previous Drop-D or DADGAD offerings. There are also highly requested yacht rock styles (17), inspired by the smooth, polished soft-rock sound of the late ’70s and early ’80s — laid-back grooves, silky electric pianos, warm textures, elegant harmonic movement, and pristine production aesthetics. Fans of heavier styles will love our new glam metal (13), capturing the flashy, high-energy sound of ’80s arena-ready guitar rock. We also have a set of rootsy modern-folk rock (18), with a warm, organic sound combining contemporary folk textures and driving acoustic strumming. And we’ve added lots of new modern pop styles (16) — the kinds of sounds you’re hearing on the radio today, featuring exciting new drums, synths, and cutting-edge RealTracks arrangements.
Country, & Americana (Sets 483–488):
Our new country & Americana RealTracks deliver a rich collection of acoustic, electric, and roots-inspired styles! We have new country pop (9) with legendary guitarist Brent Mason. There is also a potpourri (14) of bouzouki, guitars, banjo, and more, perfect for adding texture and character to contemporary acoustic arrangements. We’ve added funky country guitar (5) with PG favorite Brent Mason, along with classic pedal steel styles (5) featuring steel great Doug Jernigan. There are more country songwriter styles (8) that provide intimate, rootsy foundations for storytelling and modern Americana writing. Finally, we have “background soloing” acoustic guitar (12) with Brent Mason — simpler, but still very tasty acoustic lines designed to sit beautifully behind vocals or act as a subtle standalone solo part.
Check out all the 202 new RealTracks (in sets 468-488)!
And, if you are looking for more, the 2026 49-PAK (for $49) includes an impressive collection of 20 bonus RealTracks, featuring exciting and inspiring additions to add to your RealTracks library. You'll get new country-rhythm guitar styles from PG Music favorites Johnny Hiland and Brent Mason, along with modern-pop grooves that capture today’s radio-ready sound! There are also new indie-folk styles with guitar, bass, 6-string bass used as a high-chording instrument, acoustic guitar, and banjo. Plus, dedicated "cymbal fills" RealDrums provide an added layer that work very well with low-key folky styles with other percussion.
The 2026 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2026 49-PAK!
2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
With your version 2026 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- iOS Android Band-in-a-Box® App
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac®!
XPro & Xtra Styles PAK Sets On Sale Now - Until May 15, 2026!
All of our XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs are on sale until May 15th, 2026!
It's the perfect time to expand your Band-in-a-Box® style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs. These additional styles for Band-in-a-Box® offer a wide range of genres designed to fit seamlessly into your projects. Each style is professionally arranged and mixed, helping enhance your songs while saving you time.
What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?
XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-10 includes 1,000 styles!
Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 includes 3,700 styles (and 35 MIDI styles)!
The XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs are not included in any Band-in-a-Box® package.
The XPro Styles PAKs 1-10 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
The Xtra Styles PAKs 1-21 are available for only $29 ea (reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the Xtra Styles PAK Bundle for only $199 (reg. $349)! Listen to demos and order now! For Mac or for Windows.
Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version as they require the RealTracks included in the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Supercharge your Band-in-a-Box today with XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAK Sets!
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