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Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. rharv #818412 08/01/24 03:21 AM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	ALL. AT. thanks for commenting. what do you think about this idea ?? put in the wishlist the idea of a seperate section for what pg content would be appropo for each odd time sig (OTS). ?? so for example this mission1 5/4 style i'm working with... i would enter mission1 style in the picker and up would come a list of rt's//rd's//supertracks and loops and other pg content etc that a user could try as a base to experiment with. rather like one might do in a commercial studio with session players...trying various approaches and combos of various instrumental ideas....and with this type of style arrangement concepts and scatting. AT...this is my first venture into OTS out of the tons of songs ive done over the years...and its gonna be very demanding... so...as such...i feel the above suggestion might save me time testing out thousands of rt's//rd's//supertracks and loops. do i make sense ? Rharv. thanks for commenting. (re http://masteringmatters.com/stuff/UrbnM1bc.mp3...cute arrange.) re testing pg content to see what fits... thats roughly what ive been doing but its very hit and miss and time consuming i'm finding auditioning content. as always you come up with neat ideas. now i want to go on a mini rant rharv...lmao. how the darn heck some call rb junk beats me. ive just tested a lot of daws...all great in their own way... BUT...none of them...and i mean none of them could let me get to this stage of OTS song developement as rb in such a short time.. because ive got it all there in rb ...all the daw features plus the session track generation for audio and midi. fyi...heres what happened you see. this is not made up and is straight up. i started listening to this 5/4 style and the old creative juices started flowing and i thought 'hold on a cotton pickin moment if i did this and this and that i could do a neat vocal scat over the chord arrangement'. and thus a germ of a song idea was born. suddenly i got very excited testing out various song ideas in rb ....as is my wont..lol. i started going 'lovely..i got a yummy groove starting to happen'. so far rharv ive put in about one and a half hours in rb and got a basic bed track/arrangement happening ie...groove..plus a guide vocal scat over the top of the instrumentation includeing a jazz rd that seems to fit. now i'm scouring the pg content to see what other pg content would fit...to make a nice sound picture plus maybe a funky fadeing solo for the outtro. now maybe people will hate the final song demo idea..but... in the process..its helped me understand OTS more and maybe how to arrange for such. so what the heck i do the best i can and thats it. BUT HERES THE RUB RHARV...re rb. ive just been through an exhaustive process doing many daw trials. and while there are great ones out there...for me.. with none of them.... would i have been able to reach the point i have in song idea development in such a short time. why ?? this is down and dirty song production. very very difficult and challengeing. which is why i love it. (but i know i'm on to something when my wife ... who let me tell you can be really critical...took a listen...and went 'yeh i like it'. getting her to say that is tough...lol....seriously.). what do i mean by 'down and dirty'. let me explain. with any other daw i would have had to use my midi kbd trying various approaches probably with spending time going through what plugins might work. and also transferring tracks to and fro between rb and the other daw. for example i love reaps..but for this type of style ? i need various features that rb offers....and the integrated nature of rb audio and midi features in conjunction with track genning. see where i'm coming from ? so why some people say rb is junk baffles me. this 5/4 is very very demanding re the song idea i have in my mind. (i was thinking in my mind 'i wonder what the brilliant dave brubeck would have done with rb'.) anyway thats my opinion...and if people disagree...so be it. this is gonna be a hell of a trip. and maybe at the end i'll get egg on my face. but i'm gonna give it the old college try and see if i'm up to it. i feel no other music app could have got me to this stage within such a short time. is rb 'perfect' ? nope...but i dont know anything better for the challenge of this 5/4 song. a footnote...MTS has a rather interesting feature and how it uses colour in its midi piano roll. makes it easy to identify the different patches in an imported type 0 midi file. clever idea.... and shows me that the creator of MTS put a ton of thought into the product from a user viewpoint.) now i'm off to eat something....lol... happiness to all. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/01/24 03:23 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #818419 08/01/24 03:58 AM Off-Topic
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 21,042 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso ALL. AT. thanks for commenting. what do you think about this idea ?? put in the wishlist the idea of a seperate section for what pg content would be appropo for each odd time sig (OTS). ?? ... Go for it. After all, that's exactly what the Wish List is for. BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. Notes Norton #818423 08/01/24 05:37 AM Off-Topic
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Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,630 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by Notes Norton I'm glad BiaB has prioritized back-compatibility, and don't mind the creative hacks needed to get it to work the way I want. I've done 51 fake disks with hundreds of songs in each one, and have never been unable to enter a song. That speaks well for the versatility of this app. That is important, though there are several ways in which it can be handled. One is to keep everything as it is, but that does cause some upset. One is a migration strategy, whereby files to an older standard are migrated to a newer standard, perhaps "on the fly" as I imagine is done with SG1, SG2...SGU, SGX, etc., or perhaps as a batch process. Notes' Expanded Styles highlight both some of the issues of making BIAB work as one sometimes needs, and also give some insight into how and why such migration can be tricky. I presume(!) that his method also has the usual side-effect of halving the number of available bars in a song due to BiaB's 255-bar limit. One of the reasons I favour a batch process is that one can run tests on old format files converting to new-format files, independently of the program that eventually will work with those files and only roll out the new program once the issues are resolved. I have little doubt that there would be quite a few such issues. One of the reasons is that the new program need not have the code for handling the migration built-in, though it certainly could call the batch program when a file needs migrating. My strategy for embedded systems with stored parameters has long been similar to this. The data contains a version number which is checked at start-up and whilst the stored number is older than the new, I apply each data upgrade in turn, updating the version number at each step, until I'm at the most recent. By doing it in steps, I need not test previous upgrades each time, just the latest. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #818432 08/01/24 06:33 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,372 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso ALL. AT. thanks for commenting. what do you think about this idea ?? put in the wishlist the idea of a seperate section for what pg content would be appropo for each odd time sig (OTS). ?? ........................................................ om Great idea and I have already given it a +1 I did not want to hijack that thread so I will explain myself here. I think you should add that PGM should record some RTs in 5/4 and maybe other so called odd time signatures. It could be an add on style package that one could purchase so those whom wouldn't want wouldn't get it. Just an idea. YMMV I haven't lost all of my marbles but there is a small hole in the bag someplace! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. MarioD #818436 08/01/24 08:10 AM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	Mario. definitely ! actually it might be another revenue stream for pg... let me explain.. 1..a list of existing content that us poorer musos could use for each OTS that might work...then for the 'mansion on the lake' musos ... lol... 2..a new created library of content that targets OTS as paid add ons. eg a harp or harpsichord (<<love them) and other rt's and rd's etc. ok...i'm gonna add your suggestion to the wishlist threads so your idea isnt lost in the ether.. trotting off now. groovy ideas mario. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/01/24 08:17 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #818439 08/01/24 08:25 AM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	ps...to all. the more i'm playing with the MTS daw the more respect i have for the designer. mainly because it doesnt flood the user with a load of icons. i could work with just rb and MTS. i also like that it has its own fx suite and various other features. good job MTS. happiness. om my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #818690 08/04/24 02:58 AM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	RE : Realband (RB) adavantages when it comes to OTS. (i'm also putting the following in my rb/other daw powerhouse thread in the tips section.) All....an update. so i think ive stumbled by happenstance and experimentation a very big advantage of rb when it comes to odd time sigs (OTS). and let me say upfront...no i'm not biased re rb...but ive stumbled on something ...and maybe its a hidden feature..that is blowing my blinkin' mind. let me explain...and particularly for some who might call for pg to drop rb. maybe people are just not aware...but...what i found out is very groovy. here are the salient points. 1..even tho ive done a ton of songs in my life...never have i done 5/4. 2..in the process of helping in this thread re OTS i discovered a 5/4 style that twigged a new song idea....ie useing pg mission1 style. particularly with the pg demo...it stirred a song idea....sooo.. 3..i went to town in rb to manipulate the chord arrangement to what i heard in my head as well as started writing lyrics. and mucked about particularly with various arrangement alternatives until i got an arrange that matched what i heard in my head. 4..developing the song idea the way i heard in my head i used ONLY midi plus coyote plugin because i can work fast this way moving midi segments around and testing various arrangements fast. to knockers of coyote << its only being used for demoing/roughing out ideas. BUT...heres the rub...i found a nice little piccolo sound in coyote...sooo..lesson learnt is never discount anything. 5..at the same time i was doing the above and getting the song arranged the way i heard in my head i was testing lots of daws free and paid. i was doing this not only to keep more current in the daw world but also to see how they handled OTS and other aspects viz rb. i came up with only one conclusion putting in the intense song development work. ie rb offered adavantages over anything ive tested. reasons being the way it handled 5/4 IN CONJUNCTION WITH the powerfull track generation features as well as the fact i could do test generations on so many tracks. quite literally in rb after 1 1/2 hrs i had my rough arrange (bed guide tracks) done plus vocal lyric rough guide. this was very intense very difficult down and dirty work i couldnt have done in any daw i tested. one aspect of many being it saved me useing my midi kbd. plus being midi everything is fast. AND THE BONUS WAS to get me started rb selected a suitable jazz real drum and generated it on a track. its also interesting testing out midi supertrack and other session muso options to render more ideas for the song. to say this is a 'XXXXX' of an effort is an understatement...lol. even with rb. but let me comment further and mention that the way rb handles OTS (in this case 5/4) versus bb...is a big plus and makeing my life easier. there is a ton of work yet to do, as the song is just guide tracks right now and frankly i dont know if i can pull it off....we shall see. so to people who think pg should 'drop' rb i say this would be a shame as it does things ive not seen other music apps do.. (includeing reaps that ive enjoyed for years..). certainly doing this extremely challenging 5/4 song rb has been of great benefit and ive learnt a lot... BECAUSE of all the midi features IN CONJUNCTION with the unique track generation features. so why some knock rb baffles me. maybe its lack of familiarity.. dunno. along the way of course i had the occasional rb 'quirk' but ive encountered such with other apps. now...its not rb's fault but one big problem ive had with this mission1 song is the time i'm haveing to spend going through rt's/rd's/supertracks/loops etc etc auditioning to hear which i can shape into a 5/4 time sig. which is why i started the wishlist re needing pg content geared specifically to OTS like 5/4. this would save me oodles of time auditioning pg content. so...if anyone knows any current pg session muso content that would work in a 5/4 140 bpm song...i'm all ears. happiness. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/04/24 03:00 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819192 08/08/24 04:22 PM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	MARIO. RE AEGEAN. OMG THIS IS BLOWING UP MY KILT ....seriously. ....loads in rb ...sforzando recognises the lib and sets up a seperate section. ...sooo many choices i' m going thru all the lib..early days...but i cant thank you enough. you are not just the midi king but also the library king. i salute you sir. just super duper... i got way enough sounds now between this and the other libs. if i cant do a great song with all the sounds i got includeing synthmaster from pg ... then i'm an idiot...lol. if you dont mind and i'll attribute it to you of course i'll add aegean to libs and fx in a rb tips thread i got going in tips forum ?? whole objective being to introduce new users to plugins that work even on a less powerfull pc...cos not everyone can afford i9/xeon/threadrippers. as i said i know the big studios have vast libs often...but i often find such overwhelming and with so many choices i like i dont know which to use... thanks once again...your a prince. the OTS SONG IS LOTS OF FUN. happiness. om. 🇨🇦🇨🇦. 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/08/24 04:25 PM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819244 08/09/24 06:28 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,372 Hamlin NY	om, I'm glad I could help. I do not have AEGEAN as I have a number of orchestral VSTis but I was impressed with the sounds of AEGEAN. I haven't lost all of my marbles but there is a small hole in the bag someplace! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. MarioD #819257 08/09/24 10:53 AM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	MARIO. your the guru...so...as a matter of interest what other libs are in your arsenal that are both smallish footprint and also use lowish pc resources and free ? that sound great ?? i would love to test such out in rb for possible future song projects. as you know vsti libs can have both plusses and minuses. one minus being all the many options. thanks once again. happiness. om my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819272 08/09/24 03:24 PM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,372 Hamlin NY	om, it might take me quite a while to check out which VSTis I have a small footprint. Most of the ones that I use have a pretty large footprint. Most all of the free VSTs have the smallest footprint so google/bing free vsts . I just did and there are a ton of them. FYI - I currently have a large home improvement project going on, thus very limited time for music. I get on in the morning while drinking my coffee then again in the evening. Plus being old working just a little really tires me out so off to bed early I go. But I will try to help you as time permits. I haven't lost all of my marbles but there is a small hole in the bag someplace! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. MarioD #819277 08/09/24 03:50 PM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	mario. sorry...please dont tire yourself on my account. yes ive done a ton of googling but i value your input over dr google. i hope your home project goes excellent. btw my wife and i are laughing like crazy re your hip joint sig... happiness and respect always. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/09/24 03:54 PM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819286 08/09/24 06:33 PM Off-Topic
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,492 Mi., USA	http://bobandbarryshow.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Wejezgotcar.mp3 More odd time, to keep it relevant .. 11, 12 etc. in this one .. done long ago, just experimenting, but I *think I played bass, one way or another (I know I played the anemic guitar parts) and PT/RB played drums (with a click!) Anyway, thought I'd throw some more into the mix .. /OTS is fun (for us anyway, when we find people that can follow it) //Barry's sax solo is thru PGDistortion if I recall .. old school ///so I covered VST and OTS in a single irrelevant post! ////Totally made up story line .. I swear, I never been to Montana I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. rharv #819305 08/10/24 04:58 AM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	Rharv. excellent vocalist and interesting song concept. btw where do you get that utility that shows up to play your song ? i'm seeing it more and more. re OTS. i'm trying to expand my thinking by experimenting with OTS. i'm a novice as i normally do songs in NTS normal time sigs. take five was done in 5/4 i believe. i wonder what the most popular OTS is ? is there one ? what plugins were used on that rharv ? for vocs etc etc. ive found a great amount of nice free plugins..see my rb thread in tips. some really knocked my socks off includeing ones that emulate popular outboard that were used on hits years ago in big studios. fyi what some users might not know is even the pg dx fx compare well here with songs i once did in big studios useing big money outboard i would never afford ...IF...one explores chaining and other tricks with them..... some studios were grrreat to me...charged nothing or close to such. the AE's taught me loads. very nice giving people. happiness. om Last edited by justanoldmuso; 08/10/24 05:08 AM. my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819306 08/10/24 05:04 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,372 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso mario. sorry...please dont tire yourself on my account. yes ive done a ton of googling but i value your input over dr google. i hope your home project goes excellent. btw my wife and i are laughing like crazy re your hip joint sig... happiness and respect always. om No problem my friend. I will do what I can when I can. I haven't lost all of my marbles but there is a small hole in the bag someplace! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819308 08/10/24 05:18 AM Off-Topic
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,492 Mi., USA	"take five was done in 5/4 i believe. i wonder what the most popular OTS is ? is there one ?" Most popular OTS song in last 30+ years is probably Pink Floyd's Money .. 7/4 As far as FX on that song, we probably only had PG FX back then. That was the late 90's (maybe touching 2000), we weren't as lucky as are now with FX galore. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. rharv #819310 08/10/24 06:09 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,372 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by rharv i wonder what the most popular OTS is ? is there one ?" ............................. My guess is 5/4 with Take 5, Mission Impossible, Radiohead's 15 Step, Queens of the Stone Age's Hangin’ Tree, Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast (first part), etc. https://www.midnightmagicsounds.com/15-songs-in-5-4-time-signature/ But as usual I'm probably wrong as this site lists 17 songs done in 7/4: https://www.stereogum.com/2034893/17-essential-songs-in-74/lists/ultimate-playlist/ To be honest I had no idea so many non-jazz songs were in OTS. I haven't lost all of my marbles but there is a small hole in the bag someplace! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819311 08/10/24 06:19 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,372 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso MARIO. your the guru...so...as a matter of interest what other libs are in your arsenal that are both smallish footprint and also use lowish pc resources and free ? that sound great ?? ...................... om om, what do YOU consider a smallish footprint. I ask as you definition of smallish footprint may be way different then mine. Also do you have an upper limit on costs? I know that you said free but I'm sure many of mine may have a low cost involved. By low cost I mean under $30 USD I haven't lost all of my marbles but there is a small hole in the bag someplace! 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. justanoldmuso #819312 08/10/24 06:59 AM Off-Topic
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Gordon Scott Veteran Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 2,630 Hampshire, UK	Originally Posted by justanoldmuso i wonder what the most popular OTS is ? is there one ? That probably depend an awful lot one ones definition of "popular". I suspect in Western music, 5/4 probably has it, but when one starts to consider Eastern European (including Russian) and middle-eastern music, where 7/8, 11/8 and 13/8 are quite common, the interpretation of 'popular' gets stretched. Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful. AVL:MXE Linux; Windows 11 BIAB2025 Audiophile, a bunch of other software. Kawai MP6, Ui24R, Focusrite Saffire Pro40 and Scarletts .

Re: DISCUSSION >> ODD TIME SIGNATURES. Gordon Scott #819314 08/10/24 09:38 AM Off-Topic
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OP justanoldmuso Veteran J Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 3,597	Mario. thanks. heres the info...preferences... ...not worried about disc space resources... cheap these days. ...cpu...one instance i would prefer no more than 5% is normally what i look for. ...other aspect if someone is reading the plugins ive tested re rb or i make a suggestion to another muso...(lol...i even met a muso once on holiday.. wives hit it off...went shopping...while i told him all about bb/rb...he was going wow all the time.)... it would be nice if it ran on at least an old i5 but no older imho. ...price ?...i guess less than 50 bucks....cos of family responsibilities ive got plus i didnt win the lottery this week...lol. prob is this stuff changes rapidly. NOTE...any plugin you mention will be attributed to you. i never steal another users thunder.eg that aegean was a great find on your part.. respect...after a ton of googles i didnt come across it. hth. happiness. Gordon. i cant argue with that logic. various cultures are different. i was mainly thinking the type of music one would find on the top of the pops charts (<<lol.) in england or usa charts. happiness. om my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)

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We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

January 01, 2026

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

December 24, 2025

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

December 21, 2025

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window

In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

December 16, 2025

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

December 16, 2025

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
Playable RealTracks Set 5
RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

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