Originally Posted by Bass Thumper
20 to 40 years???!!!
WWIII may be in the rearview by that time. I understand that 2027 is the planned acquisition date.
AUKUS
I have little calibration of the money involved (except that it will be big) for these subs. But imho, I'd like to see Austrailia and other allies grow this and other design/manufacturing capability. Doing so could result in better, smarter designs for all of us.
I wonder what opinion the Chief of the Defence Force (Admiral Johnston?) has. Anyone who reaches such levels is mighty smart.
Regarding Austrailian politics, I'm WAY out of my league. In my own country we have our own problems and are on the brink of flipping from a democracy to an autocracy.
As for the waste sites, I'm not sure if that will involve only the waste from the subs you'll operate or the waste from the larger international fleet. In any case, to the physicists and engineers of the allied nations I say:
"Come on guys, sharpen your pencils and develop compact fusion energy sources . . . you can do it!"

Wow, the disinformation/lack of information you're getting in the USA is amazing. This is from our national, govt owned broadcaster, so as balanced but pro govt. as possible:"
"Five of the eight SSN-AUKUS nuclear-powered subs will be delivered by the middle of the 2050s, with the final three delivered in the 2060s.
The goal is to have one submarine built every two years from the early 2040s through to the late 2050s, to meet demand.
As for the Virginia-class submarines from the US to fill the gap in the meantime, the idea is to have them in the 2030s."
As you can read we MAY get some 2nd hand subs as gap fillers in the NEXT DECADE then the others will come in two year increments into the 2060s.The new builds won't START for twenty years.
It's a stupid deal on all levels: the time frame is way out of whack with reality and the Prime Minster who orchestrated the deal is now working for a military "THINK TANK" in the USA, (he's famous for having been sacked from every job he's had since university - even when he went to work in NZ for a time he was sacked & sent back to Oz). He did it, in part, to secure a job because he knew he was being dumped.] by the electorate. Even the most hawkish folk would see this as a pointless exercise given the time frame.
Here's a link to the complete article...good general overview: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-14/what-is-aukus-submarine-deal-details-announced/102091510

Last edited by rayc; 08/18/24 03:59 PM.
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rayc
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