Originally Posted by rayc
Wow, the disinformation/lack of information you're getting in the USA is amazing. This is from our national, govt owned broadcaster, so as balanced but pro govt. as possible:"
Ray, like I say, I can’t address Australian internal politics or how your procurement policies are managed.

The article you found dated 3/12/2023 by Georgia Hitch talks about the new SSN AUKUS subs being delivered in the 2050s and 2060s. And how the UK and US has agreed to share design plans so that you can contribute to the build. This should save your military-industrial complex decades of redundant research and design efforts plus ensure compatibility with your international partners. I understand that these will be nuclear powered but the Australian versions will contain no nuclear weapons. In the meantime, a deal has been struck for you to acquire 3 US Navy Virgina-class, nuclear powered fast attack subs. These should “tide you over”. Some may be 2nd hand, are thought to arrive in the 2030s and are quite capable boats containing tomahawk cruise missiles. Some may also include a 9-man lockout diving chamber and a 300 KW high-energy laser weapon located in the photonics mast.

The article I found dated 12/17/2023 by Andrew Greene and from the same news outlet talks about Australia acquiring Royal Navy Astute-class and US Navy Virginia-class submarines at HMAS Stirling from 2027.

I have no evidence any of this is disinformation.

With any large procurement program you should expect schedule delays, cost over-runs and twists and turns as various clauses and subclauses are triggered. And I’m still curious on Admiral Johnston’s views. Or maybe Rear Admiral Wendy Malcolm has stated a position. [As a side note, the French are unhappy to be left out of this deal and predictably, the Chinese are more than unhappy.]

But the larger point is we should all welcome such tight military cooperation and the tri-lateral security pact between the nations involved. Of course, we won’t know how effective these cooperations really are until either the missiles start flying or (as in the case of the Soviets), China collapses from within. Nevertheless, kudos to those in your command structure that are striving to deploy a more muscular defense posture.

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