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firesong #823336 09/17/24 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BabuMusic
Love this stuff, Ron, and a great song to present the flavor of the Old West. Last night we just finished the Netflix presentation of Wyatt Earp and The Cowboy War. I really like how those BGVs lift up the vocal. You fill these compositions with such accomplished talent in your collaborators. Excellent mix and a very enjoyable write.

THANKS, Marty! On a lot of our early songs like this one I just put them out as fast as I could, since time (for me) was at a premium. But I always had a better arrangement and the BGVs in mind. Now time is more available, though it seems there's still never enough. So I'm like the guy in the "Time Enough at Last" Twilight Zone episode. Just hope I don't step on my glasses (you'd have to watch the episode). Appreciate the listen and the Netflix recommendation. There's always something on there I should watch but have never heard of...

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Ron...great song and great style...as I listened the first time I was captivated by the story line and hoped the whole time he would make it to the end of the line...if I were him I would have been tempted to cut the telegraph wires but that's just me...Dusty's vocals are always right on and he's one of my favs...BTW, Dusty Hughes is the perfect name for a singer in this genre...his name sounds like a picture by Charles Russel or Frederic Remington laugh...great job on BGV's, arrangement, mix and mastering...those of us who grew up in the 50's and 60's grew up in a cowboy culture no matter where we lived...great story telling and delivery!

Dan, yep, back in the day, seems we were all cowboys at some point. Ha! Dusty Hughes is a great "trail name" indeed. I might have been tempted to cut the wires, too. The most interesting part of the backstory that I learned in researching these lyrics was the Pony Express oath:

"I,………..,do hereby swear, before the Great and Living God, that during my engagement, and while an employee of Russell, Majors and Waddell, I will, under no circumstances, use profane language, that I will drink no intoxicating liquors, that I will not quarrel or fight with any other employee of the firm, and that in every respect I will conduct myself honestly, be faithful to my duties, and so direct all my acts as to win the confidence of my employers, so help me God.”

So...no wire cutting for these hombres! THANKS for the listen and the kind thoughts. smile


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Ron,

I really enjoyed "A Bit of American History (and Mythology)."
I also really liked the use of country waltzes.
It really captures the atmosphere of the era.
The vocals are great too.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

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Originally Posted by animarorecords
Ron, I really enjoyed "A Bit of American History (and Mythology)." I also really liked the use of country waltzes. It really captures the atmosphere of the era. The vocals are great too. Enjoyed my listen a lot. Best regards. Shigeki Adachi

Shigeki, THANKS for the listen. I was worried about these lyrics being gibberish to our global forum membership, since they are very USA-specific, but I've been pleasantly surprised. Glad you enjoyed the tune!!


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Man, I used to love watching those old westerns back in the day, good times!

Good write, nice melody, and great vocal. Excellent mix, and nice job on the BGVs!

Good one, Ron, listened a couple of times.

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It's late here so sorry for a short comment.
Loved this and it ticks all the right boxes.
regards.

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Love that voice; one can hear he enjoyed singing it. Also lyrically love the parallels to modern-day changes. Nice piano touches too.

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Originally Posted by BlueAttitude
Man, I used to love watching those old westerns back in the day, good times! Good write, nice melody, and great vocal. Excellent mix, and nice job on the BGVs! Good one, Ron, listened a couple of times.

Dave, THANKS for the listen! Yep, it's hard to describe just how popular the western was in the early days of television, through the 60s and beyond. Watching TV without seeing a western would be like visiting YouTube and not seeing an influencer. It just...didn't happen...

Originally Posted by Izzy
Ron It's late here so sorry for a short comment. Loved this and it ticks all the right boxes. regards.

Izzy, glad you liked the tune!

Originally Posted by BYOBand
Love that voice; one can hear he enjoyed singing it. Also lyrically love the parallels to modern-day changes. Nice piano touches too.

THANKS! Dusty is a marvelous vocalist indeed. His voice is GREAT, but his interpretive ear is the thing that just makes my head spin. That's a nice waltz piano indeed. Faded it in and out to add a rhythmic push when needed. It's subtle but cool...THANKS for noticing.


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Excellent storytelling, with a good mix of drama, irony and pathos. It's a yes from me.


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Ron, everything works so well on this track, and it has that authentic Marty Robbins, gunfighter ballad sound.
Hard to believe there was "zero thought" re the band - they sound like they're in the studio with you.
I enjoyed the singer and your BGVs too.
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Hi Ron,

You, RW Davis and DA Hughes have done a great job.
This is very easy to listen to and a great story.
The three of you sure maintain a high standard of song writing and song presentation.
Musical expertise is always a signature of your works.
This one is no exception.

I thoroughly enjoyed your story telling.
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Three consecutive replies from Australia. That's pretty cool.

Originally Posted by Ghostgum
Excellent storytelling, with a good mix of drama, irony and pathos. It's a yes from me.

Brian, glad you enjoyed it! "Drama, irony and pathos" sum up my life, or so it seems. Ha!

Originally Posted by mkg50 (Mike G)
Ron, everything works so well on this track, and it has that authentic Marty Robbins, gunfighter ballad sound. Hard to believe there was "zero thought" re the band - they sound like they're in the studio with you. I enjoyed the singer and your BGVs too. Mike

Thanks, Mike! I only gave zero thought to the nuances of a suitable production approach beyond assigning the A and B substyles. It was always on my "One day I'll go back and do that..." list. Which is quite a long list. But I did get to scratch THIS song off of that list. THANKS for the BGV comment; they were a lot of fun...

Originally Posted by Noel96
Hi Ron, You, RW Davis and DA Hughes have done a great job. This is very easy to listen to and a great story. The three of you sure maintain a high standard of song writing and song presentation. Musical expertise is always a signature of your works. This one is no exception. I thoroughly enjoyed your story telling. --Noel

Hey, Noel! Gee, I might be blushing a little, maybe a lot. I'm definitely the weak link in our collaboration, which probably makes me work a little harder at it. I share your appreciation for this story and the supporting lyrics. R.W. is a talented lyricist for sure. It's a good day when I wake up and there are fresh lyrics in my inbox. smile


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Nicely produced. Clear sound. Someone mentioned adding a spaghetti western guitar. That would a cool addition. Vocal sounds good but delivery is somewhat choppy. Good song,

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Nicely produced. Clear sound. Someone mentioned adding a spaghetti western guitar. That would a cool addition. Vocal sounds good but delivery is somewhat choppy. Good song,

THANKS for the compliment on the production/sound. Funny, because when I listen to the sparse production on the original Marty Robbins source material, it makes "The Rider" sound like a Phil Spector production. Ha! Which is why I didn't add a baritone guitar or even the harmonica that I REALLY wanted in there. I was going for a certain style. The choppy delivery was another stylistic element by me. Sometimes when you swing for the fences you're Aaron Judge, and sometimes you're Joey Gallo. Oof! THANKS for the listen and the notes!


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I definitely expected some spaghetti. No prob though.
Well done - a cool mix & band. I'd probably have put more reverb on te vocal but I think that's just a sub in my head for baritone with spring reverb & trem.


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Very clean sound and a great feel. The 6/8 groove feels like the movement of the horse to me. Very successful.


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I definitely expected some spaghetti. No prob though. Well done - a cool mix & band. I'd probably have put more reverb on te vocal but I think that's just a sub in my head for baritone with spring reverb & trem.

THANKS, Ray! In acknowledgement of the many baritone suggestions, I was going to produce a special version, but...there are no BiaB 3/4 SW8 baritone guitars near 150BPM. So I played an overly busy version over the first part, just for fun. And it WAS a lot of fun.

The Rider (with a side of spaghetti)

Not really a baritone, but baritone-ish...

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Very clean sound and a great feel. The 6/8 groove feels like the movement of the horse to me. Very successful.

Thanks! That's a cool comment about the groove, since this is one of a handful of songs I wrote while walking and using my stride as a metronome. It was exactly the gallop of a horse I had in my head when I wrote this. Glad you liked it!


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Apologies. This is brief as we continue to have internet issues after the hurricane — so this refers to both posts.

We really enjoyed the waltz time. It provided perfect movement for the excellent vocal and lyric.
Great narrative and a period of history we are fond of reading about.
Well performed and a great mix and band. And we like the baritone bit also.

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This is in everyway pro!
Every part of the song is beautiful
I hear Jethro Tull there and there.!?

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Originally Posted by Janice & Bud
Apologies. This is brief as we continue to have internet issues after the hurricane — so this refers to both posts.

We really enjoyed the waltz time. It provided perfect movement for the excellent vocal and lyric.
Great narrative and a period of history we are fond of reading about.
Well performed and a great mix and band. And we like the baritone bit also.

J&B

J&B, hope you guys are ok! My mother, sister and brother were all in the Georgia path but came out of it in good shape. Know many weren't as fortunate. Glad ya'll liked the tune!

Originally Posted by JONA
This is in everyway pro!
Every part of the song is beautiful
I hear Jethro Tull there and there.!?

Thanks, Jona! LOVE Ian Anderson. If he's in there, he's welcome to stay!!


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