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I’m unable get BIAB Mac 2024 Version 2024 (803) to successfully follow the host DAW (Cubase 13) tempo changes. BIAB has no issues reading the start tempo from the first downbeat but from there onwards it refuses to follow instructions regard any tempo changes i.e Ritards, Ralls. Accelerandos. This clearly omits the possibility of giving the song any shape, which is a real shame because the quality of the real tracks is stupendous.
I could of course edit and fix the audio files with time stretching. But that kinda is like having a dog a barking yourself.
Is there a solution to this? Other plugins I regularly work with EKkeys 2, EXD 3, etc. (which are all midi based???) all follow the tempo map set by the host, perhaps it’s because they’re all midi based?
Happy to admit that I’m an idiot if it’s operator error at my end.
Any help, guidance etc. is very welcome.
Cheers
Colin
Mac platform. 3.3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 - 128 GB Ram - OS 14.5
Samsung T9 4TB SSD, SanDIsk 2TB SSD
Cubase 13
SIbelius Ultimate
Band-in-a-Box® for Macintosh - Version Version 2024 (803) - 64 bit application
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BIAB has no issues reading the start tempo from the first downbeat but from there onwards it refuses to follow instructions regard any tempo changes i.e Ritards, Ralls. Accelerandos... If I'm correct, BIAB will only change tempos at bar level, and if so, Ritardandos, Rallentandos etc are not (currently) implemented. I'm sure that requests have been made to implement tempo changes at beat level at least, but this hasn't yet been delivered, at least in the Windows version.
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Thanks Audio Track
I thought that may be the situation with plugin conundrum, but thank you for the heads up.
As mentioned in my initial post it’s a real shame that the flexibility of the tempo feature in BIAB plugin isn’t able to follow the host’s tempo track.
For me I work regularly with tracks, mixes, video and film that are already locked, so building tempo changes into projects and my music is becoming more and more necessary.
I do find the quality of the real tracks in BIAB stupendous, perhaps in 2025 PG Music may have got the following the tempo tracking scenario from the host DAW sussed.
Thanks again
Colin
Mac platform. 3.3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 - 128 GB Ram - OS 14.5
Samsung T9 4TB SSD, SanDIsk 2TB SSD
Cubase 13
SIbelius Ultimate
Band-in-a-Box® for Macintosh - Version Version 2024 (803) - 64 bit application
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Support does look in on this. If it is a problem with Build 803, they will let you know.
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Hi Mike - Thanks for the guidance. I'll jettison a message to Support and see if they can enlighten me on when/if/aware of the issue.
Thanks again.
Colin
Mac platform. 3.3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 - 128 GB Ram - OS 14.5
Samsung T9 4TB SSD, SanDIsk 2TB SSD
Cubase 13
SIbelius Ultimate
Band-in-a-Box® for Macintosh - Version Version 2024 (803) - 64 bit application
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The BIAB plugin does not follow host tempo changes in any DAW - this is due to limitations in how plugins work. RealTracks need to be generated in advance, and both VST and AU plugin formats do not have the provision of notifying these changes in advance, only at the exact moment the tempo changes during playback. You would need to add the tempo changes into your BIAB song manually - this can be done using Bar Settings.
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